No Blinders

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

At the core, I think it stemmed from a safety issue in the pits and an incident that occurred.

Austin, I have a TON of respect for you as a racer. Don’t you think the racers that hold 4 or 5 and lock up the brakes at the finish line and send their cars into the wall, ….well don’t you think that is a SAFETY issue ?? …You do realize the rule book says NO SANDBAGGING ….

[Adub464Q]

[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;674394]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

At the core, I think it stemmed from a safety issue in the pits and an incident that occurred.

QUOTE]

Austin, I have a TON of respect for you as a racer. Don’t you think the racers that hold 4 or 5 and lock up the brakes at the finish line and send their cars into the wall, ….well don’t you think that is a SAFETY issue ?? …You do realize the rule book says NO SANDBAGGING ….

100% agree with you MJ. You introduce a lot of other things when claiming "Safety", and where does the line stop.

I drive a SG car, are we gonna ban hood scoops because we cant see around them in the pits? That would be a similar safety concern to that of blinders.

I could make an argument each way on this, and not sure where the line stands.

[superdart]

I guess this means NO more dark tinted windows in any category.

[jamie2370]

Originally Posted by superdart

I guess this means NO more dark tinted windows in any category.

Tinted windows were never legal in the 1st place, just not enforced. Ask Jim Perry about his SG S10 that used to have tinted windows. Any altering of a helmet face shield is illegal as well(like painting the sides and leaving the center open). They will take your helmet, ask how I know lol.
Factory sunvisors can NOT be altered either.
Those that use blinders in Stock can just adopt the method of holding it up by hand and then dropping it. That is used alot in footbrake racing. That being said, I absolutely love the new rules, just wish they would enforce some of the "already" rules.

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by jamie2370

Tinted windows were never legal in the 1st place, just not enforced. Ask Jim Perry about his SG S10 that used to have tinted windows. Any altering of a helmet face shield is illegal as well(like painting the sides and leaving the center open). They will take your helmet, ask how I know lol.
Factory sunvisors can NOT be altered either.
Those that use blinders in Stock can just adopt the method of holding it up by hand and then dropping it. That is used alot in footbrake racing. That being said, I absolutely love the new rules, just wish they would enforce some of the "already" rules.

There is a specific set of rules about size and how a blinder could or could not be constructed, see section 7.8 in the general rule section. Quite honestly, the 32 sq inch size is way bigger than they need to be but even at that, I think it probably was being ignored and that's how we got to this ban. As I stated above, my blinder are tiny and don't obstruct my view in any way. I have some ideas about how to legally skirt the new rules but they certainly are not going to improve my overall visibility so if the idea here is a safety issue, what I have currently is the safer method. Jim C SS6019

[Jason]

When do you flip up or take down your blinder? As you swing off the end of the track? As you approach fuel check or scales? Or do you drive through the pits with the blinder in place? The same questions can be asked for taped helmet shields.

Asking for a friend.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by jamie2370

Any altering of a helmet face shield is illegal as well(like painting the sides and leaving the center open).

There is no rule against this… until the Stock and Super Stock-specific amendments that are the basis of this topic.

In fact, General Regulations 10:7 specifically allows modifications to the helmet shield as long as the driver feels they still have an adequate field of vision.

[Frank Castros]

I searched the Rule Book and I couldn't find a Sandbagging statement, but I clearly remember seeing it in past issues.
Just a note, much of the current Rule Book was written by lawyers.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

I searched the Rule Book and I couldn't find a Sandbagging statement, but I clearly remember seeing it in past issues.
Just a note, much of the current Rule Book was written by lawyers.

Thanks Frank, after being interrogated by Mr. Gary I was questioning my sanity ….LOL. ….

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

I searched the Rule Book and I couldn't find a Sandbagging statement, but I clearly remember seeing it in past issues.
Just a note, much of the current Rule Book was written by lawyers.

The only thing that I could find in my rulebook regarding "sandbagging" or "excessive braking" involves a participant excessively braking and hitting a guard wall or crossing the centerline.