Grade Point Alternative - Page 8

Charley Downing · 12-31-2022, 11:42 AM

What should bother you more is we pay $180-$200 entry fee for a points meet for NHRA to pay out $1000 (plus contingency lol). That’s what a 10-20% payback.

1347 · 12-31-2022, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

What should bother you more is we pay $180-$200 entry fee for a points meet for NHRA to pay out $1000 (plus contingency lol). That’s what a 10-20% payback.

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

HR9121 · 12-31-2022, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1347

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

I haven't cashed in for a couple years but I think it's still 1500 for D2 or it may be 1800.

MR DERBY CITY · 12-31-2022, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1347

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

Ha,ha, ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha ha. Ha. Ha …..I couldn’t help but laugh Duane …l believe D1 has the best payout ….

HR9121 · 12-31-2022, 12:15 PM

Charley I really like your business sense, your a true entrepreneur Mickey would've been proud. You saw a need and created a solution so well done lol.
I can tell you from experience on how stressful the situation can be. The last few years while taking time to run a business and raise young children I haven't been able to race as much as I like so I've had to make all kinds of deals to make sure I get into Charlotte and that's twice a year. It's stressful man so can you cut me some slack $1000 bucks is kinda steep. Maybe I could advertise for you in my "Live" reports or something with Ken's blessing of course. Hit me up man Charlotte will be here before we know it not too concerned with other races they always seem to drop below on Monday anyway.

Ron Ortiz · 12-31-2022, 12:40 PM

Keith, good reply, no I wasn't planning the gators this year. Been out since 2016 and car is just about complete for a return. Need to acquire grade points first. Have only 5 division races in D2, seems that I need 8, and fast fingers on the keyboard. It will take two years to get up to speed, grade point wise. Hoping to make Orlando divisional and baby gators to start things off.
Tony, you said you don't understand the constant complaining. Let me break it down for you. 1988 gators all run field, years go by and field is reduced to 110, several years later down to 90, couple more years down to 75, now down to 50. NHRA is the one that keeps changing over time, that is why the complaining continues.
Tony, you also said something about serious challengers from other divisions, how do they feel when they can't enter fast enough due to low quotas. The concept of somewhat favoring the local racers at their home tracks for a national event is appropriate, just don't lower the quotas that would hurt the traveling "pros" such as yourself.
Charley, you're doing a great job.

Keith 944 · 12-31-2022, 01:26 PM

There’s also a simple solution, just go out and win the championship. Problem solved.

Charley Downing · 12-31-2022, 01:57 PM

Duane I'm not talking about any bonus payout programs that company's payout, contingences or added entry bonus. I'm talking about what NHRA gives you for winning vs your entry.

Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe some of our 2022 stk/ss points meet winners can confirm what there win check from NHRA was this past season.
But I'm pretty sure most NHRA points meets still payout $1000 to win stock and $1200 to win Superstock.

The last time I won a points meet in stk was in 2020 at Earlville D5
$170 entry fee and $1000 check for winning. So maybe this has changed in the past 24 months

Billy Nees · 12-31-2022, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

I'm talking about what NHRA gives you for winning

NHRA Div. 1 CASH purse is $2000.
The last I looked, NHRA Natl. Event CASH purse was/is $1800.

Jason Shepard · 12-31-2022, 03:43 PM

I personally just finished my 3rd year of class racing, but I have been going with my dad since the late 80's. Back then, and through the 90's, there were no quota's. Wouldn't everyone benefit from no quota's? NHRA would make more money, racers with lower grade points could enter any event they choose. Some racers may never compete for a championship, but want a chance at a Wally 2 or 3 times a year. Why has NHRA established quota's? Interested in everyone's answers on this....

12-31-2022, 11:42 AM	#71
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Grade Point Alternative What should bother you more is we pay $180-$200 entry fee for a points meet for NHRA to pay out $1000 (plus contingency lol). That’s what a 10-20% payback. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

12-31-2022, 12:15 PM	#75
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: Grade Point Alternative Charley I really like your business sense, your a true entrepreneur Mickey would've been proud. You saw a need and created a solution so well done lol. I can tell you from experience on how stressful the situation can be. The last few years while taking time to run a business and raise young children I haven't been able to race as much as I like so I've had to make all kinds of deals to make sure I get into Charlotte and that's twice a year. It's stressful man so can you cut me some slack $1000 bucks is kinda steep. Maybe I could advertise for you in my "Live" reports or something with Ken's blessing of course. Hit me up man Charlotte will be here before we know it not too concerned with other races they always seem to drop below on Monday anyway. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

12-31-2022, 12:40 PM	#76
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Grade Point Alternative Keith, good reply, no I wasn't planning the gators this year. Been out since 2016 and car is just about complete for a return. Need to acquire grade points first. Have only 5 division races in D2, seems that I need 8, and fast fingers on the keyboard. It will take two years to get up to speed, grade point wise. Hoping to make Orlando divisional and baby gators to start things off. Tony, you said you don't understand the constant complaining. Let me break it down for you. 1988 gators all run field, years go by and field is reduced to 110, several years later down to 90, couple more years down to 75, now down to 50. NHRA is the one that keeps changing over time, that is why the complaining continues. Tony, you also said something about serious challengers from other divisions, how do they feel when they can't enter fast enough due to low quotas. The concept of somewhat favoring the local racers at their home tracks for a national event is appropriate, just don't lower the quotas that would hurt the traveling "pros" such as yourself. Charley, you're doing a great job. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

12-31-2022, 01:26 PM	#77
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,193 Likes: 1,160 Liked 1,877 Times in 577 Posts	Re: Grade Point Alternative There’s also a simple solution, just go out and win the championship. Problem solved. __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody

12-31-2022, 01:57 PM	#78
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Grade Point Alternative Duane I'm not talking about any bonus payout programs that company's payout, contingences or added entry bonus. I'm talking about what NHRA gives you for winning vs your entry. Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe some of our 2022 stk/ss points meet winners can confirm what there win check from NHRA was this past season. But I'm pretty sure most NHRA points meets still payout $1000 to win stock and $1200 to win Superstock. The last time I won a points meet in stk was in 2020 at Earlville D5 $170 entry fee and $1000 check for winning. So maybe this has changed in the past 24 months __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 12-31-2022 at 02:16 PM.

12-31-2022, 03:43 PM	#80
Jason Shepard Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 113 Likes: 140 Liked 114 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Grade Point Alternative I personally just finished my 3rd year of class racing, but I have been going with my dad since the late 80's. Back then, and through the 90's, there were no quota's. Wouldn't everyone benefit from no quota's? NHRA would make more money, racers with lower grade points could enter any event they choose. Some racers may never compete for a championship, but want a chance at a Wally 2 or 3 times a year. Why has NHRA established quota's? Interested in everyone's answers on this....