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Old 12-18-2022, 10:04 PM   #1
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BOLD promotions lost $$$ dealing with Stock/Superstock racers …..On the other hand, SFG makes $$$ dealing with ( ) racers. TWO DIFFERENT CROWDS ……

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Old 12-19-2022, 09:56 AM   #2
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They both pay money to race.
They both put a number on the car.
They both go down the track.
How are they different.

Win $50,000
R/U $20,000
Semi $7,500
1/4 $4,000
7th Rd $2,500
6th Rd $2,000
5th Rd $1,500
4th Rd $1,000
3rd Rd $500

Entry $999. 3 days @ $50,000 + $20,000 warm up race, that is 4 events per week

What does a National event that takes 4 days pay out? What is the entry fee?
Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.
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Old 12-19-2022, 10:32 AM   #3
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Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.
Good question Ron! But, historically it never does work.
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Old 12-19-2022, 01:58 PM   #4
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Good question Ron! But, historically it never does work.
YO KEN , Kenny works his tail off ,plans the race, secures sponsor give away prizes,great payout, has the race at Numidia , and a very disappointing crowd shows up ….
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:06 PM   #5
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Seems to be a lot of different reasons, but am I missing something here.

NHRA $2,000 + contingencies to win. SFG. $50,000 to win
4 days = 1 race. 4 days = 4 races
No Buybacks. Buyback. I don't like buybacks either
If you're racing for $50K why not

Mike Pearson is right on.
Mike Gray lack of grade points. I know, I need at least 6 points to enter a race in my home state, so I have to travel to several states to get points.
442 OLDS with the talented drivers there, qualifying is of little importance, try surviving.
Roy Kinslow, great idea, could be easily done, need to get ahold of SFG to see. Motor Mania TV would be included.
Sure there are a lot of reasons, but if you look around drag racing is not as such a big deal as it was a decade ago. Atlanta, Houston, W Palm Bch are examples of what is happening. Soon, the people with their noses up in the air will only be remembering when they could.
But what do I know, I'm building a Stocker when tracks are closing, fuel is sky high, and the payouts are similar to 1990. As a side note, for the SFG races it appears you can win with a .030 light and be a hundred off. But there is a better chance of needing a double oh light and be dead on within 8. It's brutal out there, but you just need to beat the other person in the other lane.
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Old 12-21-2022, 10:37 AM   #6
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One of the problems I have is with the disturbing trend of 1/8 & 1000 racing in the bracket racing world . It was all 1/4 mile racing growing up . Sorry I like 1/4 racing . What's fun about doing something half way ? The buy back was something you just live with . It's good seat time & you meet some new car people.
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It’s a shame that stock and super stock racers will not support a big $ race
Sheeeeet most of the racers that complain about lack of prize $ won’t support local Stock and SS associations racing that pays back 90% of the $
Dave Lay has 5 race schedule at Atco and on Saturday we get 60 or so car them Sunday we get a little more than half the racers
Makes no sense
We race for good $ for $100 entry
And we race in New Jersey Atco
Where are all you cry baby local class racers ?
What’s your excuse people?
No Wally. Really
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Old 12-19-2022, 11:19 AM   #8
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They both pay money to race.
They both put a number on the car.
They both go down the track.
How are they different.

Win $50,000
R/U $20,000
Semi $7,500
1/4 $4,000
7th Rd $2,500
6th Rd $2,000
5th Rd $1,500
4th Rd $1,000
3rd Rd $500

Entry $999. 3 days @ $50,000 + $20,000 warm up race, that is 4 events per week

What does a National event that takes 4 days pay out? What is the entry fee?
Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.
Simply because the majority of the class racers that whine about not having a big money race don’t show when there is one. When one comes up, the excuses start flying. They just don’t show.
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Old 12-19-2022, 01:50 PM   #9
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Simply because the majority of the class racers that whine about not having a big money race don’t show when there is one. When one comes up, the excuses start flying. They just don’t show.
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Old 12-19-2022, 11:22 AM   #10
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They both pay money to race.
They both put a number on the car.
They both go down the track.
How are they different.

Win $50,000
R/U $20,000
Semi $7,500
1/4 $4,000
7th Rd $2,500
6th Rd $2,000
5th Rd $1,500
4th Rd $1,000
3rd Rd $500

Entry $999. 3 days @ $50,000 + $20,000 warm up race, that is 4 events per week

What does a National event that takes 4 days pay out? What is the entry fee?
Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.
Those big payouts are dependent on buybacks and double entries. Most Stock and Super Stock racers don't like buybacks including myself.
Then,if you don't have heads up races,half the people wouldn't show up.
If you have heads up races,the other half would not show up.
If you have more than 128,people would complain it's too easy to qualify.

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