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Old 12-17-2022, 11:55 PM   #1
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If I can’t run more than .65 under when I get my first stocker finished do you think I could get the fast cars to put up my entry fees to keep the average down? Lol
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Old 12-18-2022, 08:57 AM   #2
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If you can’t run at least -.650 under at a race it will have zero affect on the average. It will be like you were never at the race according to the AHFS.
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Old 12-18-2022, 10:42 AM   #3
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If you can’t run at least -.650 under at a race it will have zero affect on the average. It will be like you were never at the race according to the AHFS.

Exactly. I may stop on the BB car and throw in the slow parts on the refresh SB to run .750
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Old 12-18-2022, 11:05 AM   #4
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If you can’t run at least -.650 under at a race it will have zero affect on the average. It will be like you were never at the race according to the AHFS.
Oh, okay I’m catching on to the new AHFS if I run BETWEEN .650 - .850 under they will like me and over .850 under and they will send me hate mail. Do I understand this correctly that my combo in B can affect other cars from AA - C because it’s in the same engine family even though the engine specs may be different, like different heads and valve sizes? I must have skimmed over the paragraph below too quickly.

“1st screening: The average for all vehicles running the particular engine family combination being reviewed is included in this screening. The review process will average runs in ALL classes TOGETHER with the same transmission type & the same body platform.”
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Old 12-18-2022, 01:45 PM   #5
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Assuming transmission means auto or manual? I was going to sort out my SS combo with my trusty PG vers a three speed that some say are 15 quicker. But I still could take the hp hit. Now what about wagons, is a chevy II wagon going to be the same platform as a 2dr ht? Is the malibu wagon the same as 2 door car. Tom
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Old 12-18-2022, 01:50 PM   #6
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Tom, I'm pretty sure that they go by wheelbase. If the hardtop and wagon have the same wheelbase then they're considered the same.
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Old 12-21-2022, 02:51 PM   #7
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Oh, okay I’m catching on to the new AHFS if I run BETWEEN .650 - .850 under they will like me and over .850 under and they will send me hate mail. Do I understand this correctly that my combo in B can affect other cars from AA - C because it’s in the same engine family even though the engine specs may be different, like different heads and valve sizes? I must have skimmed over the paragraph below too quickly.

“1st screening: The average for all vehicles running the particular engine family combination being reviewed is included in this screening. The review process will average runs in ALL classes TOGETHER with the same transmission type & the same body platform.”



Your combo cannot affect anything other than that same engine combo. If your combo has different heads, valve sizes, etc, then it doesn't affect combos that don't have the same specs. So, if your combo has 2.07"/1.725" valves and oval port heads, it will not affect a combo with 2.195" and 1.725" valves and rectangle ports.
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That's the way they say it works. For the 4.3 Chevy tbi engines they factor flat tappet cams, roller tappet cams, 108 wheelbase, 117 wheelbase, 430 lift cams, stock lift cams, cars or trucks together. All are considered the same engine family and body style.
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Old 12-22-2022, 02:16 AM   #9
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Your combo cannot affect anything other than that same engine combo. If your combo has different heads, valve sizes, etc, then it doesn't affect combos that don't have the same specs. So, if your combo has 2.07"/1.725" valves and oval port heads, it will not affect a combo with 2.195" and 1.725" valves and rectangle ports.
Okay, makes more sense. Why couldn’t they just say running the same engine specs rather than “engine family”.
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:49 PM   #10
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Okay, makes more sense. Why couldn’t they just say running the same engine specs rather than “engine family”.
They wouldn't do that. They paid a law firm to write the wording.
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