AHFS Change

Bob Gullett · 11-30-2022, 12:48 AM

System needs to change. My combo 68 Nova 327/275 stick made 32 runs this year. My G average is .824 14 runs. F average .869 3 triggers 18 runs. Overall average .849 32 runs. I'll be getting 4 hp I'm sure. I'm the only one that runs this combo in a 68 Nova.
The 350/255 Camaro has 19 triggers 281 runs. .745 overall average. No HP will be added. 19 triggers many just below the 1.20 under. Mine were a few thou over the one second under. I'm just using the 350 combo as an example and its nothing against anyone who runs it. Whether it gets HP or not doesn't affect me. My point is with a heavily populated combo it can lower the average very easily. Racers like myself don't have that luxury. And I'm not the only one in this boat. 3 triggers and I get HP. 19 triggers doesn't. The 2 don't add up. Just my opinion.

Larry Hill · 11-30-2022, 10:14 AM

Sometimes working on your car is working on the average.

James Perrone · 11-30-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gullett

System needs to change. My combo 68 Nova 327/275 stick made 32 runs this year. My G average is .824 14 runs. F average .869 3 triggers 18 runs. Overall average .849 32 runs. I'll be getting 4 hp I'm sure. I'm the only one that runs this combo in a 68 Nova.
The 350/255 Camaro has 19 triggers 281 runs. .745 overall average. No HP will be added. 19 triggers many just below the 1.20 under. Mine were a few thou over the one second under. I'm just using the 350 combo as an example and its nothing against anyone who runs it. Whether it gets HP or not doesn't affect me. My point is with a heavily populated combo it can lower the average very easily. Racers like myself don't have that luxury. And I'm not the only one in this boat. 3 triggers and I get HP. 19 triggers doesn't. The 2 don't add up. Just my opinion.

Good example Bob
But you did it to yourself
Only guy running combo
Stop showing off in the Nhra strip club.
You’re playing with yourself. 😂

Billy Nees · 11-30-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

Good example Bob
But you did it to yourself
Only guy running combo
Stop showing off in the Nhra strip club.
You’re playing with yourself. 😂

Hey Ponko, ya jealous or something?
When you're proud of your junk ya like to hang it out!

GTS340 · 11-30-2022, 01:13 PM

We received the A or B survey in division 7. It seems "B" is/was kind of a wide open change. Normally being conservative when time to vote. Some of the things in "B" I'm not a fan of. If possible I had the 4 question survey. I would go for a change or two.

Paul Haszlauer
7019 C/SA

Jack Matyas · 11-30-2022, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gullett

System needs to change. My combo 68 Nova 327/275 stick made 32 runs this year. My G average is .824 14 runs. F average .869 3 triggers 18 runs. Overall average .849 32 runs. I'll be getting 4 hp I'm sure. I'm the only one that runs this combo in a 68 Nova.
The 350/255 Camaro has 19 triggers 281 runs. .745 overall average. No HP will be added. 19 triggers many just below the 1.20 under. Mine were a few thou over the one second under. I'm just using the 350 combo as an example and its nothing against anyone who runs it. Whether it gets HP or not doesn't affect me. My point is with a heavily populated combo it can lower the average very easily. Racers like myself don't have that luxury. And I'm not the only one in this boat. 3 triggers and I get HP. 19 triggers doesn't. The 2 don't add up. Just my opinion.

Bob you are so right - you are not alone - last year I tripped the trigger once - just once and because I'm alone in the class I got a gift from the NHRA - Christmas HP - the HP was bad enough but it took me out of the class and I can't get back in .All that plus it got the rest of the guys with my motor got the HP also and they didn't deserve it.All over one trigger .

4543 · 11-30-2022, 06:29 PM

Having had a slow to the index car and one that’s kind of fast I can see both sides of this issue. I know that having the faster car is more fun. I would leave everything as it has been in the past with one exception. I think if a race is mineshaft it should not count for any horsepower adjustments. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

Jim Caughlin · 11-30-2022, 10:37 PM

I must be missing something, what survey?

B/S 428 · 12-01-2022, 11:47 AM

Sorry for my confusion but has anyone looked at the new nhra ahfs rules posted 9/28/22? It plainly says no mineshaft, no automatic HP, all runs count for year end average. So please chime in, the way I'm reading this is I can run as fast as I want 1.20+ under as many times as I want as long as my average is under .850 at the end of the year? Brian Seaberg

GUMP · 12-01-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by B/S 428

Sorry for my confusion but has anyone looked at the new nhra ahfs rules posted 9/28/22? It plainly says no mineshaft, no automatic HP, all runs count for year end average. So please chime in, the way I'm reading this is I can run as fast as I want 1.20+ under as many times as I want as long as my average is under .850 at the end of the year? Brian Seaberg

That may not be written in stone yet....

View Poll Results: Does AHFS need to work more?
Leave the AHFS alone and keep doing things as we have been.	34	37.36%
Adjust the rules of the AHFS in an effort to more quickly fix fast combinations	57	62.64%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

11-30-2022, 12:48 AM	#1
Bob Gullett VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,108 Likes: 58 Liked 510 Times in 117 Posts	Re: AHFS Change System needs to change. My combo 68 Nova 327/275 stick made 32 runs this year. My G average is .824 14 runs. F average .869 3 triggers 18 runs. Overall average .849 32 runs. I'll be getting 4 hp I'm sure. I'm the only one that runs this combo in a 68 Nova. The 350/255 Camaro has 19 triggers 281 runs. .745 overall average. No HP will be added. 19 triggers many just below the 1.20 under. Mine were a few thou over the one second under. I'm just using the 350 combo as an example and its nothing against anyone who runs it. Whether it gets HP or not doesn't affect me. My point is with a heavily populated combo it can lower the average very easily. Racers like myself don't have that luxury. And I'm not the only one in this boat. 3 triggers and I get HP. 19 triggers doesn't. The 2 don't add up. Just my opinion. __________________ 68 Chevy11 327 F/S Last edited by Bob Gullett; 11-30-2022 at 01:16 AM.

11-30-2022, 10:14 AM	#2
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,680 Likes: 1,993 Liked 11,003 Times in 2,263 Posts	Re: AHFS Change Sometimes working on your car is working on the average. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

11-30-2022, 01:13 PM	#5
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 879 Likes: 286 Liked 1,361 Times in 416 Posts	Re: AHFS Change We received the A or B survey in division 7. It seems "B" is/was kind of a wide open change. Normally being conservative when time to vote. Some of the things in "B" I'm not a fan of. If possible I had the 4 question survey. I would go for a change or two. Paul Haszlauer 7019 C/SA

11-30-2022, 06:29 PM	#7
4543 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 644 Likes: 63 Liked 649 Times in 140 Posts	Re: AHFS Change Having had a slow to the index car and one that’s kind of fast I can see both sides of this issue. I know that having the faster car is more fun. I would leave everything as it has been in the past with one exception. I think if a race is mineshaft it should not count for any horsepower adjustments. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

11-30-2022, 10:37 PM	#8
Jim Caughlin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Woodburn, Or Posts: 688 Likes: 84 Liked 806 Times in 246 Posts	Re: AHFS Change I must be missing something, what survey?

12-01-2022, 11:47 AM	#9
B/S 428 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 87 Likes: 18 Liked 154 Times in 34 Posts	Re: AHFS Change Sorry for my confusion but has anyone looked at the new nhra ahfs rules posted 9/28/22? It plainly says no mineshaft, no automatic HP, all runs count for year end average. So please chime in, the way I'm reading this is I can run as fast as I want 1.20+ under as many times as I want as long as my average is under .850 at the end of the year? Brian Seaberg Last edited by B/S 428; 12-01-2022 at 12:15 PM.