Transbrake woes

Bob Verwold · 04-21-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SSTRACER323

Bob
Do you have a timer lock out? On my dedenbear once i let go of the button i have to wait 5 seconds for the lockout to reset. is it possible that you are locking yourself out of trans brake after the burnout?

Just a thought

When I first put the box in that happened and I took out all of the time the factory had set in it (your talking about so you don't hit the brake button down track track ?) At Indy it was at least 10 sec by the time we both got staged. And I'm still looking like an IDIOT. But my wheels did stay on. haha

MUSTANG3637 · 04-21-2008, 10:35 PM

Hey Bob, What Delay Box Do You Use? Did You Switch Trans Brake And Valve Body From A Trans King? I Use Trans King Internal Shift And Brake. Havn't Had A Problem Other Than Rear Clutch Issue. Maybe Internal Pressure Issue. Poss Button,loose Wiring At Connectors.

Jeff D.
37

Bob Verwold · 04-22-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MUSTANG3637

Hey Bob, What Delay Box Do You Use? Did You Switch Trans Brake And Valve Body From A Trans King? I Use Trans King Internal Shift And Brake. Havn't Had A Problem Other Than Rear Clutch Issue. Maybe Internal Pressure Issue. Poss Button,loose Wiring At Connectors.

Jeff D.
37

Jeff,
The box is Biondo Mega 85 and I checked it when I got back to the trailer.(for time in it on the reset and it was on 0 ) Still running the Trans King thought about changing and going to an air shifter but ran out of winter. As far as pressure I'm usually at 2500rpm on the foot brake before I ever push the button in. The wiring was one thing I did go over this winter and every thing seemed good and tight and was where it was supposed to be, that was when I ran a heavy ground from the box, have wondered about those things that keep electric from running but don't know.

BB-The solenoid is grounded to the trans case / will ground to body and see what happens I know grounds can give ya fits..........

Bill Baer · 05-14-2008, 06:54 PM

Ok Bob here is another possibility, if for some reason your trans is not completely in low ,like a mismatched shifter/shift lever in the trans or the shift cable is not mounted to the trans you may not be getting the trans in completely in low and when the motor torques up it may move just enough to put you in high gear and of course the trans brake doesn't work in high grear. Watch to see if your motor moves back and forth when you load the brake it doesn't take very much movement to cause this to happen also make sure the shift lever is correct I can tell you from experience the the Hurst quarter stick is different from most of them.
Regards:
Billy Baer

P.S. Please don't ask me how many times I removed disassembled, re-assembled and re-installed my transmission(s) until I finally figured this particular gremlin out.

Bob Verwold · 05-14-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Baer

Ok Bob here is another possibility, if for some reason your trans is not completely in low ,like a mismatched shifter/shift lever in the trans or the shift cable is not mounted to the trans you may not be getting the trans in completely in low and when the motor torques up it may move just enough to put you in high gear and of course the trans brake doesn't work in high grear. Watch to see if your motor moves back and forth when you load the brake it doesn't take very much movement to cause this to happen also make sure the shift lever is correct I can tell you from experience the the Hurst quarter stick is different from most of them.
Regards:
Billy Baer

P.S. Please don't ask me how many times I removed disassembled, re-assembled and re-installed my transmission(s) until I finally figured this particular gremlin out.

Bill, I've got the linkage adjusted so far into low I Sometimes can't get trans into park(the wife is ready with a wheel chalk to throw under the slick when I pull into the trailer). Both the shifter and leaver are B&M, also put a new cable on last year.Will ck for motor movement. Thanks Bob

Bill Baer · 05-14-2008, 08:18 PM

Bob
That sounds like the same condition I had with a missmatched trans lever. (i.e "it didn't always want to go in to park")
Try this place the shifter in low crawl under the car and pull the cable off and see if the lever in the trans moves, it shouldn't, if it does readjust the cable and try again. There is a spring loaded detent that will pull the trans lever into the correct position.
Once you get the cable adjusted, shift it to high and again verify that the lever doesn't move when you remove the cable. then Try to do the same thing in park.
If the trans lever moves at any time you pull the cable off something is wrong.
I'm assuming that the shifter cable bracket is mounted to the transmission not to the frame or body right?

Regards
Billy Baer

Bob Verwold · 05-14-2008, 08:36 PM

Bill, Adjusting it the way you said I can't get it to work good in both holes it's either one or the other,( going from low to park ) so I tried to split the difference and that didn't work to good either. The bracket that mounts on the trans did move some that was when I took off the bracket and wielded two together put it back on readjusted it again. Seems to work for a period of time then WA LA I'm back in the dummy mode.Thanks for your help Bob.................

P.S. The bracket is mounted on trans.

04-21-2008, 10:35 PM	#2
MUSTANG3637 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 52 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Transbrake woes Hey Bob, What Delay Box Do You Use? Did You Switch Trans Brake And Valve Body From A Trans King? I Use Trans King Internal Shift And Brake. Havn't Had A Problem Other Than Rear Clutch Issue. Maybe Internal Pressure Issue. Poss Button,loose Wiring At Connectors. Jeff D. 37

05-14-2008, 06:54 PM	#4
Bill Baer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nothern IL Posts: 596 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Transbrake woes Ok Bob here is another possibility, if for some reason your trans is not completely in low ,like a mismatched shifter/shift lever in the trans or the shift cable is not mounted to the trans you may not be getting the trans in completely in low and when the motor torques up it may move just enough to put you in high gear and of course the trans brake doesn't work in high grear. Watch to see if your motor moves back and forth when you load the brake it doesn't take very much movement to cause this to happen also make sure the shift lever is correct I can tell you from experience the the Hurst quarter stick is different from most of them. Regards: Billy Baer P.S. Please don't ask me how many times I removed disassembled, re-assembled and re-installed my transmission(s) until I finally figured this particular gremlin out. __________________ Bill Baer 3391 SC, 339B SC, QR

05-14-2008, 08:18 PM	#6
Bill Baer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nothern IL Posts: 596 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Transbrake woes Bob That sounds like the same condition I had with a missmatched trans lever. (i.e "it didn't always want to go in to park") Try this place the shifter in low crawl under the car and pull the cable off and see if the lever in the trans moves, it shouldn't, if it does readjust the cable and try again. There is a spring loaded detent that will pull the trans lever into the correct position. Once you get the cable adjusted, shift it to high and again verify that the lever doesn't move when you remove the cable. then Try to do the same thing in park. If the trans lever moves at any time you pull the cable off something is wrong. I'm assuming that the shifter cable bracket is mounted to the transmission not to the frame or body right? Regards Billy Baer __________________ Bill Baer 3391 SC, 339B SC, QR Last edited by Bill Baer; 05-14-2008 at 08:21 PM.

05-14-2008, 08:36 PM	#7
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Transbrake woes Bill, Adjusting it the way you said I can't get it to work good in both holes it's either one or the other,( going from low to park ) so I tried to split the difference and that didn't work to good either. The bracket that mounts on the trans did move some that was when I took off the bracket and wielded two together put it back on readjusted it again. Seems to work for a period of time then WA LA I'm back in the dummy mode.Thanks for your help Bob................. P.S. The bracket is mounted on trans. Last edited by Bob Verwold; 05-14-2008 at 08:38 PM.