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[Brett C]

That guy always does that **** on this forum! Should be used to it by now.
Shows up randomly and calls out people in the 3rd person and then disappears. No one know who the f it is! Just ignore the idiot!

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Brett C

That guy always does that **** on this forum! Should be used to it by now.
Shows up randomly and calls out people in the 3rd person and then disappears. No one know who the f it is! Just ignore the idiot!

I agree 100%

[SBillinson]

This thread needs to die.

The guy had a thin head gasket and got bounced. It's not like he had a super stock engine in the car.

The last I knew, 0.050" decked from a set of small block heads gave you a point of compression. He had less than a third of that, maybe a quarter. Would it make a difference? Maybe, but it's not worth a tenth. Besides, how many heads up runs does anyone see in eliminations? Sure, he was running class, but the guy races a lot. He has no need to cheat, especially at the most obvious place to check..

For those who don't know, he's a good guy and a excellent driver. He comes from a racing family of nice people.

Move on.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by SBillinson

This thread needs to die.

The guy had a thin head gasket and got bounced. It's not like he had a super stock engine in the car.

The last I knew, 0.050" decked from a set of small block heads gave you a point of compression. He had less than a third of that, maybe a quarter. Would it make a difference? Maybe, but it's not worth a tenth. Besides, how many heads up runs does anyone see in eliminations? Sure, he was running class, but the guy races a lot. He has no need to cheat, especially at the most obvious place to check..

For those who don't know, he's a good guy and a excellent driver. He comes from a racing family of nice people.

Move on.

I disagree with just about everything in this one, right from the top.

As I said, I don't know the man. I'm sure he's a great guy to have a beer with after hours..But what does that have to do with the subject matter?
In case some missed it, this car and driver has been involved in several heads up runs in the last few years..Some with great drivers with good engines, that were in contention for National and Divisional championships. He was able to run away from most of them.
Now the driver can say he didn't put those gaskets on the engine, and the engine can say he didn't do it. The fact remains. Someone did it and it's no accident.

I'm really surprised at the nonchalant attitude of some here. This kind of thing would have been looked at quite differently under Farmer, Greg X, and Marty Barrett.

This saga is not going away yet, nor should it.

BTW, S... I think you ought to recheck your math.

[Doug Hoven]

As much as it sucks to see someone, in fact more than one genuinely all around good person to get disqualified at a race, I think it was a very important move from a tech standpoint. All of the cars that found there way into the teardown barn this past weekend at Maple Grove are cars that have a reputation of being very fast cars. It may have been good practice to tear down all of the class winners, but the time and manpower wasn't present to be able to manage that kind of operation. It is important to see that the racers aren't the only ones noticing which cars are going very fast during heads ups, while staying in the middle of the pack at all other times during competition. Hopefully this serves as a bit of a reminder to some that they can and will be torn down at any point at a race, and that tech hasn't completely backed off like some may have thought. Even though it takes a trained eye along with time and effort, It would be comforting to continue to see more random teardowns in the future, maybe not even just for engines. Safety, Electronics, etc.

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I disagree with just about everything in this one, right from the top.

As I said, I don't know the man. I'm sure he's a great guy to have a beer with after hours..But what does that have to do with the subject matter?
In case some missed it, this car and driver has been involved in several heads up runs in the last few years..Some with great drivers with good engines, that were in contention for National and Divisional championships. He was able to run away from most of them.
Now the driver can say he didn't put those gaskets on the engine, and the engine can say he didn't do it. The fact remains. Someone did it and it's no accident.

I'm really surprised at the nonchalant attitude of some here. This kind of thing would have been looked at quite differently under Farmer, Greg X, and Marty Barrett.

This saga is not going away yet, nor should it.

BTW, S... I think you ought to recheck your math.

I was referring to 0.050 off the deck of the head. According to my math, .018 from the gasket is about 0.8 of point of compression. Splitting hairs maybe, but if the clearance infraction is less than than that, then you get in the neighborhood of 1/2 point of compression.

I'm not being nonchalant about it. Seems like a strange place to cheat since it's so easily checked. I don't see it.

He had the wrong gasket, and in my view it's not worth all the brouhaha. Would seem to me that the block and heads got machined when the motor got freshened and nobody checked the cc's. I could be wrong, and that's fine, but again it seems a strange way to cheat if that was objective.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

As I said, I don't know the man.
In case some missed it, this car and driver has been involved in several heads up runs in the last few years..Some with great drivers.

Yes his head gaskets were too thick by .014 this weekend but you are making it sound like it's been in his car for many years .And you don't know that so why accuse him? I'm sure the NHRA is not going to let him slide but you want to take him to the woodshed .

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Yes his head gaskets were too thick by .014 this weekend but you are making it sound like it's been in his car for many years .And you don't know that so why accuse him? I'm sure the NHRA is not going to let him slide but you want to take him to the woodshed .

That's correct Jack as a matter of fact the motor was picked up fresh in the spring. Y'all carry on.....

[HR9121]

People up here throwing rocks meanwhile running around with ten thousand dollar cylinder heads with their chest blowed up because their at the top of the sheet lmao

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Yes his head gaskets were too thick by .014 this weekend but you are making it sound like it's been in his car for many years .And you don't know that so why accuse him? I'm sure the NHRA is not going to let him slide but you want to take him to the woodshed .

Originally Posted by SBillinson

This thread needs to die.

Besides, how many heads up runs does anyone see in eliminations? .

Jacko, I was responding to SB here when he said heads up races weren't common.
I didn't accuse anyone of breaking the rules. NHRA did.. All I said was there was and is a vested interest in how fast that car goes, in a really popular class lately.
I know what I see, and that car was fast last year and it was fast the other day too.
You guys can think whatever you want.
BTW , I've heard reports of .014 and up to .023 on the gasket. Nobody said anything about head cc's to me.