Ford in Comp Eliminator?????

Freddie · 04-20-2008, 10:02 AM

I believe the biggest issue of running a Ford in Comp right now is the heads.

I am currently running a set of Canfields on my setup, and could run ok , not great, but ok. I have tried a set of finely tuned production heads (inline valve) and lost 2 tenths. If I used the NASCAR head (which is a canted valve) It would move the car up a class, along with all the other changes needed to the motor, intake, pistons etc.... just not worth it at this point.

I am working with a local engine builder who specializes in Ford motors to run this car in SS/CS or SS/FM for next year, and we are close.. there again testing with my canfield (not legal) heads I can run .8 under, with the production (legal head) I am only .5 under, but at least we are under.

I may build a complete new car to try a comp setup maybe C/EA with a light roadster, or maybe even go to a big block and run A or B/A..

JCQuinn · 04-20-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Freddie

I am working with a local engine builder who specializes in Ford motors to run this car in SS/CS or SS/FM for next year, and we are close.. there again testing with my canfield (not legal) heads I can run .8 under, with the production (legal head) I am only .5 under, but at least we are under.

When you say production head, which one are you refering to. The N351 was never a production head but it is legal for SS/CS. As far as legal aluminum heads for other classes I have seen some pretty impressive flow numbers for the Z304 head. The number I saw on one porters website claimed well over 300 cfm for a ported Z304.

Freddie · 04-24-2008, 09:28 AM

John: yes there are some heads with decent flow #'s after porting, but they still are not comparable to the GM #'s. I would like to see the head selection opened up to some more of the aftermarket heads, especially in the modified classes.

As for comp racing, there is no such thing as a economical setup to race. If you feel like running a Ford, you just have to figure on spending more, not that they cant be competetive, just costs more.

jbracecraft · 07-30-2008, 10:29 PM

last time i checked, 50 under was a good run? sure, there are guys out there that can go 80 under, but youve gotta start somewhere.

G Schenck · 07-31-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jbracecraft

last time i checked, 50 under was a good run? sure, there are guys out there that can go 80 under, but youve gotta start somewhere.

I think he was talking about .50 under in SS . In Comp that would be maybe running the index. I have not seen a highly competitive ford V8 in many years.

Greg

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 07-31-2008, 02:41 PM

I belive a car like the old FFW Street Warrior class, would be a good start in comp. My buddy has a mustang that ran 9.20s with a TW head and a 5speed liberty. he was limited to a .500 lift cam. With more open rules this combo would be a player in comp

Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane
NHRA-IHRA

jbracecraft · 08-01-2008, 05:13 AM

oops. just reread it. my bad.

04-20-2008, 10:02 AM	#1
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Ford in Comp Eliminator????? I believe the biggest issue of running a Ford in Comp right now is the heads. I am currently running a set of Canfields on my setup, and could run ok , not great, but ok. I have tried a set of finely tuned production heads (inline valve) and lost 2 tenths. If I used the NASCAR head (which is a canted valve) It would move the car up a class, along with all the other changes needed to the motor, intake, pistons etc.... just not worth it at this point. I am working with a local engine builder who specializes in Ford motors to run this car in SS/CS or SS/FM for next year, and we are close.. there again testing with my canfield (not legal) heads I can run .8 under, with the production (legal head) I am only .5 under, but at least we are under. I may build a complete new car to try a comp setup maybe C/EA with a light roadster, or maybe even go to a big block and run A or B/A.. __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

04-24-2008, 09:28 AM	#3
Freddie Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Fla / Anderson SC Posts: 334 Likes: 12 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Ford in Comp Eliminator????? John: yes there are some heads with decent flow #'s after porting, but they still are not comparable to the GM #'s. I would like to see the head selection opened up to some more of the aftermarket heads, especially in the modified classes. As for comp racing, there is no such thing as a economical setup to race. If you feel like running a Ford, you just have to figure on spending more, not that they cant be competetive, just costs more. __________________ NHRA: Comp 2200 - S/C 2201 NMRA 2012 Outlaw 10.5 #10

07-30-2008, 10:29 PM	#4
jbracecraft Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ford in Comp Eliminator????? last time i checked, 50 under was a good run? sure, there are guys out there that can go 80 under, but youve gotta start somewhere.

07-31-2008, 02:41 PM	#6
Stephen & Horace Johnson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 964 Likes: 341 Liked 162 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Ford in Comp Eliminator????? I belive a car like the old FFW Street Warrior class, would be a good start in comp. My buddy has a mustang that ran 9.20s with a TW head and a 5speed liberty. he was limited to a .500 lift cam. With more open rules this combo would be a player in comp Stephen Johnson #2162 Horace Johnson #2167 SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

08-01-2008, 05:13 AM	#7
jbracecraft Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ford in Comp Eliminator????? oops. just reread it. my bad.