RPM Act Hearing - Page 2

GarysZ24 · 09-07-2022, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BG56

The Country has never been cleaner with all the regs over the years. Cleaning up old practices, cleaner more efficient vehicles(lighter and more dangerous) and knowledge have done great things. Real problem is countries (China, India, etc.) that don't give a damn. YET (we) buy way too many goods from them. Net change? WE PAY!

MADE IN THE USA should've never gone away to China like it did in 2008! Too many products we use from American companies are built over there, when we should've continued making what we consume, like we used to!

GUMP · 09-08-2022, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24

MADE IN THE USA should've never gone away to China like it did in 2008! Too many products we use from American companies are built over there, when we should've continued making what we consume, like we used to!

This is way off topic. While I agree with you on this, as someone who both sells and buys on the "global economy", I can tell you that it would be a long painful process to return things to how they used to be.

We have a real opportunity to stop Government overreach. Instead of crying over a boat that has already sailed, maybe participate in saving VIN numbered race cars?

BG56 · 09-08-2022, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by B Parker

They should take a look at how much carbon is put into the air for one professional game like football. With 50 thousand plus traveling to a game.
How many private Jets with teams and all the equipment they need. How many corporate Jets with VIP's, TV crews and all media. I'm sure one football game pollutes more than a drag race. BP

shhhhh, psssst. not supposed to talk about that. (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain)!

GUMP · 09-08-2022, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BG56

shhhhh, psssst. not supposed to talk about that. (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain)!

Smart industries are putting in plans to be "carbon neutral". I believe that, if we want racing to survive, we have to get with the program.

https://news.delta.com/delta-spotlig...on-earth-month

J.R. Haddad · 09-08-2022, 11:55 AM

Darren, we should have had a plan already, that could have been presented with all of the other material. You could help some of the people in Washington who are on the right side of this, but their peers ask them
"What can they do about their carbon footprint?" Some may have their mind made up already, based solely on our footprint.

J.R.

CMcAllister · 09-08-2022, 01:22 PM

Congress has incrementally abdicated it's power and authority to this huge, autonomous, bureaucratic agency (and others) which makes up crises, and the solutions to fix them, to justify it's existence with little oversight or accountability.

Then, citizens have to go back to Congress, and beg for protection from the monster they created, the monster that has no fear of Congress, lies and manipulates in order to retain and increase it's power.

Maybe Congress will get around to allowing us to keep our toys.

Don Sofranko · 09-08-2022, 02:04 PM

Gump
Can you summarize what this RPM act would do if passed?
What if its not passed into law?
I am out of touch with the aftermarket legislation in the modern auto world.

Is this legislation all about new cars that are made to be emissions compliant?
What about the pre 1970s cars and engines?
Does any of this apply to Carbs, intakes, pistons for 1967 Camaros that don't get emission tested anywhere?

I don't think the street legal type racing, that is popular and all over TV, cable, youtube, etc... Is good for the racers / rodders cause in this type legislation.
There are plenty of people crossbreeding new cars and trucks, with turbos etc... and drawing attention to themselves on Motor Trend TV and wondering why there is a problem. The hot rod drag week is passing my area soon, does the legislation affect this type car from being used, or just the parts makers?

GUMP · 09-08-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Sofranko

Gump
Can you summarize what this RPM act would do if passed?
What if its not passed into law?
I am out of touch with the aftermarket legislation in the modern auto world.

Is this legislation all about new cars that are made to be emissions compliant?
What about the pre 1970s cars and engines?
Does any of this apply to Carbs, intakes, pistons for 1967 Camaros that don't get emission tested anywhere?

I don't think the street legal type racing, that is popular and all over TV, cable, youtube, etc... Is good for the racers / rodders cause in this type legislation.
There are plenty of people crossbreeding new cars and trucks, with turbos etc... and drawing attention to themselves on Motor Trend TV and wondering why there is a problem. The hot rod drag week is passing my area soon, does the legislation affect this type car from being used, or just the parts makers?

The RPM Act deals with the 1970 Clean Air Act as it relates to race cars. The Clean Air Act prohibits the removal of any emission control device. My understanding is that the original text has wording that exempts cars modified for racing.

On a couple of recent occasions, the EPA has tried to get the wording changed to include the conversion of VIN numbered cars for racing in their policing. This would obviously be a disaster for us!

The RPM puts it in clear language that VIN numbered cars modified for racing are exempt.

The street car thing is a different subject. I'm not sure that we could win that battle. Right now they are going after manufacturers and not end users. I have heard of some States blocking vehicle sales due to "illegal modifications".

Bobby DiDomenico · 09-08-2022, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

The RPM Act deals with the 1970 Clean Air Act as it relates to race cars. The Clean Air Act prohibits the removal of any emission control device. My understanding is that the original text has wording that exempts cars modified for racing.

On a couple of recent occasions, the EPA has tried to get the wording changed to include the conversion of VIN numbered cars for racing in their policing. This would obviously be a disaster for us!

The RPM puts it in clear language that VIN numbered cars modified for racing are exempt.

The street car thing is a different subject. I'm not sure that we could win that battle. Right now they are going after manufacturers and not end users. I have heard of some States blocking vehicle sales due to "illegal modifications".

Sadly this may all be a losing battle with pr like this':
EPA Hits Two More Diesel Tuners With $10 Million Fine For Defeat Devices
https://www.yahoo.com/now/epa-hits-t...160400802.html

CMcAllister · 09-08-2022, 03:23 PM

SEMA is kind of taking the lead on this looking out for its members and the industry.

At what point do NHRA, and other motorsports sanctions and organizations, get involved in lobbying state and federal governments and agencies to protect their interests and the interests of their members and tracks?

Sucks to be that way, but they need to get on the ball.

09-08-2022, 11:55 AM	#15
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 784 Likes: 938 Liked 1,467 Times in 307 Posts	Re: RPM Act Hearing Darren, we should have had a plan already, that could have been presented with all of the other material. You could help some of the people in Washington who are on the right side of this, but their peers ask them "What can they do about their carbon footprint?" Some may have their mind made up already, based solely on our footprint. J.R.

09-08-2022, 01:22 PM	#16
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 614 Likes: 16 Liked 920 Times in 259 Posts	Re: RPM Act Hearing Congress has incrementally abdicated it's power and authority to this huge, autonomous, bureaucratic agency (and others) which makes up crises, and the solutions to fix them, to justify it's existence with little oversight or accountability. Then, citizens have to go back to Congress, and beg for protection from the monster they created, the monster that has no fear of Congress, lies and manipulates in order to retain and increase it's power. Maybe Congress will get around to allowing us to keep our toys. Last edited by CMcAllister; 09-08-2022 at 01:27 PM.

09-08-2022, 02:04 PM	#17
Don Sofranko Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 121 Likes: 0 Liked 128 Times in 32 Posts	Re: RPM Act Hearing Gump Can you summarize what this RPM act would do if passed? What if its not passed into law? I am out of touch with the aftermarket legislation in the modern auto world. Is this legislation all about new cars that are made to be emissions compliant? What about the pre 1970s cars and engines? Does any of this apply to Carbs, intakes, pistons for 1967 Camaros that don't get emission tested anywhere? I don't think the street legal type racing, that is popular and all over TV, cable, youtube, etc... Is good for the racers / rodders cause in this type legislation. There are plenty of people crossbreeding new cars and trucks, with turbos etc... and drawing attention to themselves on Motor Trend TV and wondering why there is a problem. The hot rod drag week is passing my area soon, does the legislation affect this type car from being used, or just the parts makers?

09-08-2022, 03:23 PM	#20
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 614 Likes: 16 Liked 920 Times in 259 Posts	Re: RPM Act Hearing SEMA is kind of taking the lead on this looking out for its members and the industry. At what point do NHRA, and other motorsports sanctions and organizations, get involved in lobbying state and federal governments and agencies to protect their interests and the interests of their members and tracks? Sucks to be that way, but they need to get on the ball.