The Importance of Class Runoffs

Larry Hill · 08-15-2022, 02:58 PM

I want to run against the fast guys heads up.

jmcarter · 08-15-2022, 04:58 PM

Mike is right, the current quotas have largely made it a combo deal which removes the thrill of having heads up runs. Granted, combos are competition and we’re all competitive (with the possible exception of 5 who’ve taken the poll) so Indy and the Baby Gators (plus possibly a very few others) are the only places that feature “true” class competition. I’m not sure the Nitro junkies who attend on Friday would understand a combo run any more than they do the .90 classes but any exposure is better than what we’re getting currently.

Bobby Fazio · 08-15-2022, 05:02 PM

As much as I hate combos and have never stood a chance in them, they are easy to understand for the novice spectator because there is no breakout. They can actually be kind of fun to watch at that point.

PozQB14 · 08-15-2022, 06:42 PM

The first question by said "novice spectator" Why are they letting off at 1000'? 9&10 second heads up races aren't exciting, even when we know what it takes to get these cars that fast.

bubski · 08-15-2022, 09:11 PM

OMG !! here we go again !! Bubski is like what?? Lets see !! there's a million different classes in Stock ,Super Stock !! Why !! No one knows for sure but its all fair and equitable !! How about STICKS and AUTOS run heads up !! How about cars with same index regardless of class run heads up !! the indexes are fair don't you know !! You cant run a class elimination type format if everyone is in a different class and there's no competition !! Due to car quotas or manipulating the "system" Its a joke being played on the racer !! After all Sticks and Autos and same indexes are run then it comes down to combo class for whatever that is !! Class should be heads up no BS till theres a winner !! not a manipulator !! who's F$@king the system and laughing at everyone else !! Bubski is tired of the woke AZZ BS and game playing !! YOUR stuff is BAD azz ?? run whoever is next to you with the same index !!

e vassar · 08-15-2022, 09:51 PM

WHOA!..OK so I'll be the only one here that thinks the guy or gal who DRIVES their way through the whole field should have the spotlight on Sunday. I understand the class eliminations and heads-up runs are what makes our class unique, If we are going to throw the indexes up on the scoreboard and first one to the finish line is the winner, let me know cause I'm going to Oklahoma to buy that V6 Malibu.

Albert Lee · 08-16-2022, 07:30 AM

You have to admit that Bubski is right about way too many classes. That's the first step that gets overlooked.

Al Corda

Bobby Fazio · 08-16-2022, 08:09 AM

This thread just went into left field. Let's not argue about too many classes and quotas, we can start another thread for that. Read the original post and decide/vote if you think class runoffs should be on Friday at a national event. Thanks.

GrapeApe7575 · 08-16-2022, 05:31 PM

Bobby it's a wonderful idea and one of the primary reasons we compete in Stk/SS for the thrill of a heads up victory. Unfortunately, I believe the Negaholics have it right in their belief that this will never happen. We are nothing but fodder for NHRA and haven't been since the days of Sox/Landy/Jenkins.

As much as the purists want to minimize the fact that we are just a more expensive form of bracket racing that is indeed what we are. When is the last time you headed to the lanes without shoe polish in the car.

If there ever was a time when a race was to feature class runoffs I think it would be made much more interesting if they talked about what makes an A/SA car an A/SA. Why is a 69 Big Block Camaro so awesome and how does it relate to the car they had "back in the day". Every person I've ever known had a Grandma or an Aunt that had a Duster at one point. If the announcer would discuss what it takes to make that lowly F/SA small block Mopar a real hot rod it would become more interesting.....for about 11 seconds....especially if it bends the rear license plate on the way out of the hole!!!

coupemerc · 08-16-2022, 07:10 PM

I'm a Stock Eliminator newbie but have raced alcohol dragsters since the late 80s. I've always loved heads up/first to the finish line racing. Running class eliminations on Friday could only help with the popularity.

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08-15-2022, 02:58 PM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,640 Likes: 1,940 Liked 10,714 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs I want to run against the fast guys heads up. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

08-15-2022, 04:58 PM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,296 Likes: 2,383 Liked 3,181 Times in 972 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs Mike is right, the current quotas have largely made it a combo deal which removes the thrill of having heads up runs. Granted, combos are competition and we’re all competitive (with the possible exception of 5 who’ve taken the poll) so Indy and the Baby Gators (plus possibly a very few others) are the only places that feature “true” class competition. I’m not sure the Nitro junkies who attend on Friday would understand a combo run any more than they do the .90 classes but any exposure is better than what we’re getting currently. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

08-15-2022, 05:02 PM	#3
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,448 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs As much as I hate combos and have never stood a chance in them, they are easy to understand for the novice spectator because there is no breakout. They can actually be kind of fun to watch at that point. __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com

08-15-2022, 06:42 PM	#4
PozQB14 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 129 Likes: 24 Liked 42 Times in 17 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs The first question by said "novice spectator" Why are they letting off at 1000'? 9&10 second heads up races aren't exciting, even when we know what it takes to get these cars that fast.

08-15-2022, 09:11 PM	#5
bubski Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 228 Likes: 14 Liked 165 Times in 60 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs OMG !! here we go again !! Bubski is like what?? Lets see !! there's a million different classes in Stock ,Super Stock !! Why !! No one knows for sure but its all fair and equitable !! How about STICKS and AUTOS run heads up !! How about cars with same index regardless of class run heads up !! the indexes are fair don't you know !! You cant run a class elimination type format if everyone is in a different class and there's no competition !! Due to car quotas or manipulating the "system" Its a joke being played on the racer !! After all Sticks and Autos and same indexes are run then it comes down to combo class for whatever that is !! Class should be heads up no BS till theres a winner !! not a manipulator !! who's F$@king the system and laughing at everyone else !! Bubski is tired of the woke AZZ BS and game playing !! YOUR stuff is BAD azz ?? run whoever is next to you with the same index !!

08-15-2022, 09:51 PM	#6
e vassar Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 382 Likes: 67 Liked 271 Times in 107 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs WHOA!..OK so I'll be the only one here that thinks the guy or gal who DRIVES their way through the whole field should have the spotlight on Sunday. I understand the class eliminations and heads-up runs are what makes our class unique, If we are going to throw the indexes up on the scoreboard and first one to the finish line is the winner, let me know cause I'm going to Oklahoma to buy that V6 Malibu.

08-16-2022, 07:30 AM	#7
Albert Lee Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 253 Likes: 145 Liked 258 Times in 49 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs You have to admit that Bubski is right about way too many classes. That's the first step that gets overlooked. Al Corda Last edited by Albert Lee; 08-16-2022 at 07:37 AM.

08-16-2022, 08:09 AM	#8
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,448 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs This thread just went into left field. Let's not argue about too many classes and quotas, we can start another thread for that. Read the original post and decide/vote if you think class runoffs should be on Friday at a national event. Thanks. __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com

08-16-2022, 05:31 PM	#9
GrapeApe7575 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 194 Likes: 20 Liked 341 Times in 77 Posts	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs Bobby it's a wonderful idea and one of the primary reasons we compete in Stk/SS for the thrill of a heads up victory. Unfortunately, I believe the Negaholics have it right in their belief that this will never happen. We are nothing but fodder for NHRA and haven't been since the days of Sox/Landy/Jenkins. As much as the purists want to minimize the fact that we are just a more expensive form of bracket racing that is indeed what we are. When is the last time you headed to the lanes without shoe polish in the car. If there ever was a time when a race was to feature class runoffs I think it would be made much more interesting if they talked about what makes an A/SA car an A/SA. Why is a 69 Big Block Camaro so awesome and how does it relate to the car they had "back in the day". Every person I've ever known had a Grandma or an Aunt that had a Duster at one point. If the announcer would discuss what it takes to make that lowly F/SA small block Mopar a real hot rod it would become more interesting.....for about 11 seconds....especially if it bends the rear license plate on the way out of the hole!!!

08-16-2022, 07:10 PM	#10
coupemerc Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Milford Massachusetts Posts: 5 Likes: 61 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The Importance of Class Runoffs I'm a Stock Eliminator newbie but have raced alcohol dragsters since the late 80s. I've always loved heads up/first to the finish line racing. Running class eliminations on Friday could only help with the popularity.