Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners - Page 2

Dick Butler · 04-11-2008, 03:38 PM

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GENE BUELL · 04-11-2008, 07:12 PM

What about the NASCAR Hemi package for stockers? Right now NHRA let's them run with steel fenders and hood with a fiberglass scoop.

Guess I'll leave mine on the trailer till it's cleared up.

herbjr · 04-12-2008, 02:19 PM

I was telling my dad about this and he said that back in the 60's Chrysler screwed up and made way to many of these "dealer added parts." He said back then they were giving this stuff away to anyone in the race program. This came from Mr. Tom Hoover the father of the Hemi. If a letter from Tom Hoover would help with this he is retired from Chrylser but is very sharp as he was involved with all these programs back then.

Herb McCandless Jr

Lynn A McCarty · 04-12-2008, 05:55 PM

My buddy has been building a SS/CA single 4 barrell Hemi car for 3 years now. If he has to run alum, he is done. Please let us know. He said he found alum front end and they wanted $15k for it. Almost as maddening as us Pontiac TA guys eh Chuck?

04-13-2008, 10:26 AM

I was wondering where that 64 Plymouth was. I enjoyed seeing it at Indy a few years back. I think NHRA is crazy to do this to these cars. I also disagree with what they have done to the 68 car. Why not givve the guys that have a car that conforms to SS rules the chance to run SS/AA if they want to.Why have to compete with the SS/AH cars if you don't want to spend that kind of money or don't have it to spend. Those 64 cars put a great show on NHRA leave them alone and let them run.

Adger Smith · 04-13-2008, 05:39 PM

After many years of these cars being allowed the heavier steel components, WHY the change in the rules. Could there be a competitor with another brand car got tired of loosing class & made a "political" move? If that is the case...what an easy way to get rid of your class competition.... Shame,Shame

Alan Roehrich · 04-13-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Adger Smith

After many years of these cars being allowed the heavier steel components, WHY the change in the rules. Could there be a competitor with another brand car got tired of loosing class & made a "political" move? If that is the case...what an easy way to get rid of your class competition.... Shame,Shame

I hope that's not the case Adger. It'd be sort of like the guys who did that to Tony Rhodes and Scott Wilcox with the 67 L-88 Corvettes. It'll be a damned shame if the Hemis get the same treatment.

Greg Gay · 04-14-2008, 02:18 PM

Chuck, I'd love to own a 64-65 Race Hemi car, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. I didn't mean to make light of the situation. I'm all for maintaining the purity of the sport, but if something has been allowed, it shouldn't be taken away, especially when it is of no advantage, and probably a disadvantage. I'd rather see steel replacing aluminum before carbon fiber replacing fiberglass.

James L Miller · 04-17-2008, 05:22 AM

I got an e-mail from David Hakim that he was working with Wesley to get the classification guide changed back. Sure, we'd all love to have an aluminum car. I'd love to have the $10k-$20k that the fenders and hood would cost too! NHRA legalized the Edelbrock heads for Stock and SS to reduce the cost of finding old, wore out heads. Now they turn around and do this. It's hard enough to find parts for 45 year old cars, let alone small production run pieces. I'm thinking about a MW engine now and a flat, steel hood. The new Hemi block I picked up on Saturday is a $3000 paper weight. It only took eight months to get.

Dick Butler · 04-17-2008, 07:57 AM

Since the expense of the parts is out of this world why wouldnt fiber glass replacements be legalized for original Aluminum on all brands. The wt wouldnt seem to be less. The availabilty would make them cheaper. Then the AL parts could be protected in the garage and the cost of repairs would be reasonable. I have heard of AL fenders and hoods torn up by motor explosions and THOUSANDS of $ spent to repair the stock AL parts. To me this seems a desirable rule change to make these cars more affordable. They are a BIG part of the SS history and current show. Other brands might also need this to become affordable.
This seems to be a common sense rule much along the line of aftermarket heads, al heads, aftermarket carbs. They are not available to purchase. THE WEIGHT of the car still would enforced as the same....SS and S need these cars for the show.
Thanks

04-11-2008, 03:38 PM	#11
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Jarn, If you have a B-body for sale please contact Me... 937-623-8126 Thanks Need details and ...

04-11-2008, 07:12 PM	#12
GENE BUELL Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hesperia, Ca. Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners What about the NASCAR Hemi package for stockers? Right now NHRA let's them run with steel fenders and hood with a fiberglass scoop. Guess I'll leave mine on the trailer till it's cleared up. __________________ Gene Buell 7426 STK Gone Jeepin'!

04-12-2008, 02:19 PM	#13
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners I was telling my dad about this and he said that back in the 60's Chrysler screwed up and made way to many of these "dealer added parts." He said back then they were giving this stuff away to anyone in the race program. This came from Mr. Tom Hoover the father of the Hemi. If a letter from Tom Hoover would help with this he is retired from Chrylser but is very sharp as he was involved with all these programs back then. Herb McCandless Jr

04-12-2008, 05:55 PM	#14
Lynn A McCarty Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Plainfield (INDY) Indiana Posts: 468 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners My buddy has been building a SS/CA single 4 barrell Hemi car for 3 years now. If he has to run alum, he is done. Please let us know. He said he found alum front end and they wanted $15k for it. Almost as maddening as us Pontiac TA guys eh Chuck? __________________ Lynn A McCarty 3470 SS

04-13-2008, 10:26 AM	#15
J Oliverio Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners I was wondering where that 64 Plymouth was. I enjoyed seeing it at Indy a few years back. I think NHRA is crazy to do this to these cars. I also disagree with what they have done to the 68 car. Why not givve the guys that have a car that conforms to SS rules the chance to run SS/AA if they want to.Why have to compete with the SS/AH cars if you don't want to spend that kind of money or don't have it to spend. Those 64 cars put a great show on NHRA leave them alone and let them run.

04-13-2008, 05:39 PM	#16
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners After many years of these cars being allowed the heavier steel components, WHY the change in the rules. Could there be a competitor with another brand car got tired of loosing class & made a "political" move? If that is the case...what an easy way to get rid of your class competition.... Shame,Shame __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

04-14-2008, 02:18 PM	#18
Greg Gay Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 388 Likes: 22 Liked 286 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Chuck, I'd love to own a 64-65 Race Hemi car, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. I didn't mean to make light of the situation. I'm all for maintaining the purity of the sport, but if something has been allowed, it shouldn't be taken away, especially when it is of no advantage, and probably a disadvantage. I'd rather see steel replacing aluminum before carbon fiber replacing fiberglass.

04-17-2008, 05:22 AM	#19
James L Miller Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 494 Likes: 6 Liked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners I got an e-mail from David Hakim that he was working with Wesley to get the classification guide changed back. Sure, we'd all love to have an aluminum car. I'd love to have the $10k-$20k that the fenders and hood would cost too! NHRA legalized the Edelbrock heads for Stock and SS to reduce the cost of finding old, wore out heads. Now they turn around and do this. It's hard enough to find parts for 45 year old cars, let alone small production run pieces. I'm thinking about a MW engine now and a flat, steel hood. The new Hemi block I picked up on Saturday is a $3000 paper weight. It only took eight months to get.

04-17-2008, 07:57 AM	#20
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Just a heads-up for all 1964 race hemi owners Since the expense of the parts is out of this world why wouldnt fiber glass replacements be legalized for original Aluminum on all brands. The wt wouldnt seem to be less. The availabilty would make them cheaper. Then the AL parts could be protected in the garage and the cost of repairs would be reasonable. I have heard of AL fenders and hoods torn up by motor explosions and THOUSANDS of $ spent to repair the stock AL parts. To me this seems a desirable rule change to make these cars more affordable. They are a BIG part of the SS history and current show. Other brands might also need this to become affordable. This seems to be a common sense rule much along the line of aftermarket heads, al heads, aftermarket carbs. They are not available to purchase. THE WEIGHT of the car still would enforced as the same....SS and S need these cars for the show. Thanks