Not for Nuthin' But Close!

tscheerer · 07-05-2022, 12:04 PM

This thread makes me want to revive my 94 Grand Am that last ran in C/FS back in 2006. Bought the car new and drove it several years, then converted it into a race car. Built headers for the 3.1l V6, had a cam made and trans reworked, even researched and found the loosest OEM converter for it and rewired the 4T60E trans wiring to control shifting. The one problem I couldn't get past was it's an OBD1.5 car and there were no options to modify the PCM that I could figure out, so it was running OEM tune and 5500 fuel cutoff that held it back. It ran .050 under most of the time before I started racing something else and parked it. After 5 years sitting, put it back on the street for my daughter to drive when she was 16. Parked it again when she got done, and it's been sitting 3 years. Might be time to put it back on the track.

Billy Nees · 07-05-2022, 12:40 PM

OBD1 can be a problem. I played with some mid-80s Sunbirds some years ago. I could get them to go fast but not consistently.
I would be looking for an older aftermarket unit that some Racer has sitting on a shelf.

RNNChrisbarnes · 09-29-2022, 08:12 PM

Any updates on this project?

Billy Nees · 09-30-2022, 08:38 AM

Nothing new to report. I've just been locally bracket racing the car. Besides being a fine little Stocker, it's a very good bracket car. The driver still needs some work though.

Dwight Southerland · 10-02-2022, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

The driver still needs some work though.

How long does it take to "fix" a driver?!? Seems you've been working on that for half a century!

Frank Castros · 10-02-2022, 05:32 PM

What year was it that Billy Nees was the Land of NED Stock Eliminator Champion?

Frank Castros · 10-02-2022, 08:08 PM

Is it too early to nominate Billy for the NED Image of Youth award? An oxymoron perhaps?

Frank Castros · 10-03-2022, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

What year was it that Billy Nees was the Land of NED Stock Eliminator Champion?

The answer is;
Super Street 1985
Stock 1993

07-05-2022, 12:04 PM	#1
tscheerer Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: kansas city Posts: 10 Likes: 0 Liked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! This thread makes me want to revive my 94 Grand Am that last ran in C/FS back in 2006. Bought the car new and drove it several years, then converted it into a race car. Built headers for the 3.1l V6, had a cam made and trans reworked, even researched and found the loosest OEM converter for it and rewired the 4T60E trans wiring to control shifting. The one problem I couldn't get past was it's an OBD1.5 car and there were no options to modify the PCM that I could figure out, so it was running OEM tune and 5500 fuel cutoff that held it back. It ran .050 under most of the time before I started racing something else and parked it. After 5 years sitting, put it back on the street for my daughter to drive when she was 16. Parked it again when she got done, and it's been sitting 3 years. Might be time to put it back on the track. Attached Thumbnails

07-05-2022, 12:40 PM	#2
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! OBD1 can be a problem. I played with some mid-80s Sunbirds some years ago. I could get them to go fast but not consistently. I would be looking for an older aftermarket unit that some Racer has sitting on a shelf. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-29-2022, 08:12 PM	#3
RNNChrisbarnes Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 145 Likes: 1 Liked 192 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Any updates on this project? __________________ facebook.com/racersnewsnetwork

09-30-2022, 08:38 AM	#4
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Nothing new to report. I've just been locally bracket racing the car. Besides being a fine little Stocker, it's a very good bracket car. The driver still needs some work though. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

10-02-2022, 05:32 PM	#6
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,002 Likes: 2,654 Liked 2,752 Times in 973 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! What year was it that Billy Nees was the Land of NED Stock Eliminator Champion?

10-02-2022, 08:08 PM	#7
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,002 Likes: 2,654 Liked 2,752 Times in 973 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Is it too early to nominate Billy for the NED Image of Youth award? An oxymoron perhaps?