69 z-28 camaro ? - Page 4

neb5445 · 04-14-2008, 01:18 PM

If the 1970 had a copo option with a 454 ls 6, why doesn't NHRA have those available to race?

Chevy454 · 04-14-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

If the 1970 had a copo option with a 454 ls 6, why doesn't NHRA have those available to race?

No 454 in a Camaro *ever*...396/375hp was the largest in 1970...and the only performance COPO found on a '70 Camaro is COPO 9796, which was the tall rear spoiler for the early built '70 Z cars.

Interestingly though, my original Tech Guide does indeed have a listing for a 1970 454/450 (LS6) Camaro, as well as a 1970 454/465 (LS7) Corvette (found in my original Classification Guide also!)...these would have been 2 pretty deadly street combos, too bad they never materialized!

Dwight Southerland · 04-14-2008, 05:39 PM

I have a 1970 Chevrolet dealer brochure that shows a 454 460hp engine option for a Corvette. Of course we know why that is not in the class guide

neb5445 · 04-15-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy454

No 454 in a Camaro *ever*...396/375hp was the largest in 1970...and the only performance COPO found on a '70 Camaro is COPO 9796, which was the tall rear spoiler for the early built '70 Z cars.

Interestingly though, my original Tech Guide does indeed have a listing for a 1970 454/450 (LS6) Camaro, as well as a 1970 454/465 (LS7) Corvette (found in my original Classification Guide also!)...these would have been 2 pretty deadly street combos, too bad they never materialized!

I see it was offered in a Motion Camaro from New York.

Jeff Lee · 04-15-2008, 10:56 AM

And you could get a Motion Camaro with an LS7 and a tunnel ram. But that doesn't mean it's acceptable to NHRA...

Robert Bullard · 04-15-2008, 11:29 AM

seems all Z 28s had be a X33 or a X77. this is on the trim tag on the fire wall at the master cyl. lots of so called Z 28s are not really Z 28s.

Chuck Norton · 04-15-2008, 12:18 PM

A '69 Camaro built at any point in the model run at the Van Nuys plant (would have a "L" in the vin#) was not assigned an X-code, no matter how it was equipped. Also, Ohio-built 1969 Camaros (an "N" in the vin#) that were produced prior to December, 1968, do not have any X-codes.

Casey Miles · 04-15-2008, 04:28 PM

I have an original Z/28 from Baldwin Chrevolet. It came with no console, no power steering and the fuel guage is where the clock is in the standard model. I still have the original window sticker and wanrantee charge card. The car came with a cowl hood and I beleive it was a part of the Z/28 package. It might even be a separate line order on the window sticker. Jerry Mcneish, I'm sure could answer questions about Z/28's
Casey Miles
248H

John Leichtamer Jr · 04-15-2008, 08:50 PM

Didn't all cowl hood option car come with the hood, rear spoiler, and airdam under the front lower valance.It seems that alot of the cars running in stock & super/stock only run the hood and not the rest of the option. Whats with that??

Hammer

Casey Miles · 04-16-2008, 08:41 AM

John: Back in the day, NHRA forced you to have the spoiler and the air dam or neither of them. You couldn't mix and match. Now NHRA doesn't seem to care or they don't have the experience of what should be correct for the 69 Camaro's. The air dam speeds you up and the spoiler slows you down, so that's why you see the cars with air dam only. NHRA should reenforce the rules on which way the cars are configured. Also, that option wasn't offered on all 69 Camaro's, depended on what engine was installed and model the car was if you could get the air dam and spoiler. The true cars offered with the air dam has a threaded bolt hole in the H frame for the air dam center support.
Casey Miles
248H

04-14-2008, 01:18 PM	#31
neb5445 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? If the 1970 had a copo option with a 454 ls 6, why doesn't NHRA have those available to race?

04-14-2008, 05:39 PM	#33
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,999 Likes: 64 Liked 772 Times in 192 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? I have a 1970 Chevrolet dealer brochure that shows a 454 460hp engine option for a Corvette. Of course we know why that is not in the class guide

04-15-2008, 10:56 AM	#35
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? And you could get a Motion Camaro with an LS7 and a tunnel ram. But that doesn't mean it's acceptable to NHRA... __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-15-2008, 11:29 AM	#36
Robert Bullard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? seems all Z 28s had be a X33 or a X77. this is on the trim tag on the fire wall at the master cyl. lots of so called Z 28s are not really Z 28s.

04-15-2008, 12:18 PM	#37
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 104 Liked 84 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? A '69 Camaro built at any point in the model run at the Van Nuys plant (would have a "L" in the vin#) was not assigned an X-code, no matter how it was equipped. Also, Ohio-built 1969 Camaros (an "N" in the vin#) that were produced prior to December, 1968, do not have any X-codes.

04-15-2008, 04:28 PM	#38
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? I have an original Z/28 from Baldwin Chrevolet. It came with no console, no power steering and the fuel guage is where the clock is in the standard model. I still have the original window sticker and wanrantee charge card. The car came with a cowl hood and I beleive it was a part of the Z/28 package. It might even be a separate line order on the window sticker. Jerry Mcneish, I'm sure could answer questions about Z/28's Casey Miles 248H

04-15-2008, 08:50 PM	#39
John Leichtamer Jr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orange City Fl Posts: 764 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? Didn't all cowl hood option car come with the hood, rear spoiler, and airdam under the front lower valance.It seems that alot of the cars running in stock & super/stock only run the hood and not the rest of the option. Whats with that?? Hammer

04-16-2008, 08:41 AM	#40
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: 69 z-28 camaro ? John: Back in the day, NHRA forced you to have the spoiler and the air dam or neither of them. You couldn't mix and match. Now NHRA doesn't seem to care or they don't have the experience of what should be correct for the 69 Camaro's. The air dam speeds you up and the spoiler slows you down, so that's why you see the cars with air dam only. NHRA should reenforce the rules on which way the cars are configured. Also, that option wasn't offered on all 69 Camaro's, depended on what engine was installed and model the car was if you could get the air dam and spoiler. The true cars offered with the air dam has a threaded bolt hole in the H frame for the air dam center support. Casey Miles 248H