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Old 05-30-2022, 07:04 PM   #1
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A qualifying sheet is generated. Wouldn’t it be easier to just pair us off the ladder for R1?

Why random pair R1 of Opens?
Nick, some OPENS in previous years were notorious for racers entering the race, making a hit and then loading up for home. This resulted in MANY bye runs. That is why D3 runs random pair first rd. Accordingly, there is not a LADDER in the free world that would give a competitor 2 straight bye runs. Since racer A had the first bye, the DD should have given the 2nd bye to the number 2 qualifier. I think even DUMBO would agree to this reasoning …LOL. !!!!! Upon further review, to open another can of worms ….I concur with Larry Hill…ie….This is (was) a PERFORMANCE class and the number one qualifier of the race IMO should have gotten the initial bye run. However, if the announcer did state the requisite of the bye run on the PA …..then so be it ….

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Old 05-30-2022, 07:11 PM   #2
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Nick, some OPENS in previous years were notorious for racers entering the race, making a hit and then loading up for home. This resulted in MANY bye runs. That is why D3 runs random pair first rd. Accordingly, there is not a LADDER in the free world that would give a competitor 2 straight bye runs. Since racer A had the first bye, the DD should have given the 2nd bye to the number 2 qualifier. I think even DUMBO would agree to this reasoning …LOL. !!!!!
If any National Open was the way the Earlville National Open was,I doubt a lot of people would have left.
Entry was $100.Win ONE round and win $100.
Who would pass on a deal like that?
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If any National Open was the way the Earlville National Open was,I doubt a lot of people would have left.
Entry was $100.Win ONE round and win $100.
Who would pass on a deal like that?
The HEMI guys ….
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Did anyone at Bowling Green hear an announcement about how the byes would be determined?
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Did anyone at Bowling Green hear an announcement about how the byes would be determined?
I did not. Heard who received the 1st rd byes but never heard how they would be determined.
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Since this is a problem looking for a solution,I'll offer another.
If so many people just want a grading point and then they leave anyways,just run the Division 3 National Opens like a bracket race with no heads up.No ladder.Bye to the best reaction time.No multiple byes unless everyone left already had one.And also have buybacks.lol.
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Number one qualifier.
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Since this is a problem looking for a solution,I'll offer another.
If so many people just want a grading point and then they leave anyways,just run the Division 3 National Opens like a bracket race with no heads up.No ladder.Bye to the best reaction time.No multiple byes unless everyone left already had one.And also have buybacks.lol.
I think the second round pairing works. I know why the random pairing negates heads up because of the potential jockeying for advantage. I don’t see any reason to cut heads up for the remainder of the race. It is easy to keep track and pair from there.
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