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Old 05-23-2022, 08:56 PM   #1
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With all due respect, can you list the 50 or so cars (75%) that spun? Also, whatÂ’s your definition of spin? My dad followed you in the right lane on Q1. I was standing behind your car when you left as I was lining him up. I did not see your car spin. I think you still went 1.25 in 60Â’. I raced you last October in St. Louis and you went 1.21 in 60Â’. The weather in St. Louis was nowhere near the 1.0889 correction and 28.70 barometer that we had in Indy this past weekend.

I donÂ’t believe there were any issues with the racetrack this past weekend.

Can you post a picture of your data log from the runs you spun? IÂ’d be curious to see the RPM spike.

Nick
I do have the graph showing the spin by the way> The spike on the 1,2 shift is huge . Normally My 60ft are around 1.17 to 1.21 depending on the track. It is simple to watch the higher class cars not even wheel standing do the math on the cars not leaving strong. By the way I used to take timing out on the leave 4 years ago on bad tracks. FYI Which car is yours ? what class what engine? does it have a lot of torque?
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Old 05-23-2022, 09:27 PM   #2
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I do have the graph showing the spin by the way> The spike on the 1,2 shift is huge . Normally My 60ft are around 1.17 to 1.21 depending on the track. It is simple to watch the higher class cars not even wheel standing do the math on the cars not leaving strong. By the way I used to take timing out on the leave 4 years ago on bad tracks. FYI Which car is yours ? what class what engine? does it have a lot of torque?
I’m sure the barometer had more to do with the lazy wheel stands than poor track prep. The wheel stands seemed to come around Sunday morning. In fact, I seen a few cars fail to make adjustments from Saturday which resulted in them unloading on the wheelie bars.

Spike on the 1-2…are you spinning down track?

My car is 2003 mustang, FGT/H, no torque for me, it’s a turd off the line.
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I’m sure the barometer had more to do with the lazy wheel stands than poor track prep. The wheel stands seemed to come around Sunday morning. In fact, I seen a few cars fail to make adjustments from Saturday which resulted in them unloading on the wheelie bars.

Spike on the 1-2…are you spinning down track?

My car is 2003 mustang, FGT/H, no torque for me, it’s a turd off the line.
Here anyone can watch the Super stockers Spin start at 1.50 By the way there is a huge difference in torque vs other cars with my combination and most higher class cars All the copos spun the Hemis spun and the corvette This is the link to look at the ones who are spinning or not hooking If you do not have the subscription you will not be able to watch
https://www.nhra.tv/watch/div-3-luca...-park-friday-1
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Here anyone can watch the Super stockers Spin start at 1.50 By the way there is a huge difference in torque vs other cars with my combination amd most higher class cars All the copos spun the Hemis spun and the corvette This is the link to look at the ones who are spinning or not hooking If you do not have the suscription you will not be able to watch
https://www.nhra.tv/watch/div-3-luca...-park-friday-1
Admittedly, I didn’t watch the video. However, I did go to live timing and looked at Q1. I see 1-2 cars that may have had problems, not 75% of the field.

There was nothing wrong with the track. There was at least two runs made in Top Dragster that were sub 6.00. I think there was fast runs made in Top Sportsman. I even think Antron Brown made a half track pass in his Top Fuel car Thursday!

Brad and crew did a great job!
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Admittedly, I didn’t watch the video. However, I did go to live timing and looked at Q1. I see 1-2 cars that may have had problems, not 75% of the field.

There was nothing wrong with the track. There was at least two runs made in Top Dragster that were sub 6.00. I think there was fast runs made in Top Sportsman. I even think Antron Brown made a half track pass in his Top Fuel car Thursday!

Brad and crew did a great job!
They did a great job of trying to prep the track but the stuff they were using I suspect is the same stuff used at Pomona and Vegas which is not PJ1
Superstock is not Top sportsman or top Dragster a totally a different animal for track prep they were using the wrong stuff is the problem
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Nick;
I have a graph on every single run for the last 10 years. I have the graph from the last race at Bowling Green which I had a 1.19 60 ft. The car spun a little in the 1 to 2 shift but overall it was a good run,

Now the graph on the race that I Lost at indy when I red-lighted shows the car spinning on the leave as well as a huge spike on the 1to 2 shift also a little amount of spinning down track by the way the tires are fresh. this spinning shows up on the accel G meter and also shows the car spinning as the gs are up and down > if you want I have the graphs on my laptop as well as My phone I can show the condition of the track for the higher HP cars at indy this year was not prepped with the correct glue I just bet on it The glue was different. I am not blaming the track crew just the glue that was being used is worthless not their fault
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Old 05-24-2022, 12:03 AM   #7
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When I first made a run I actually thought it was my car >
It was not the tires they were fresh, so I thought oh no the converter is gone, then my thoughts were maybe the trans so I looked up How many runs I had on the convertor and the trans but not drastically too many runs on them I think?I have a fresh convertor but my other trans is getting freshening up Then I realized after watching other cars the issue was the track as they were not leaving normal. I watch a lot lol at me
Now I suspect it is the glue that was being used at Indy will see for sure after the first run at Bowling Green if My suspicions are correct about the glue or not. talking is cheap lol
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I’m sure the barometer had more to do with the lazy wheel stands than poor track prep. The wheel stands seemed to come around Sunday morning. In fact, I seen a few cars fail to make adjustments from Saturday which resulted in them unloading on the wheelie bars.

Spike on the 1-2…are you spinning down track?
Yes the graph shows that as well as the leave Plus the Accel Gs shows the spin also

My car is 2003 mustang, FGT/H, no torque for me, it’s a turd off the line.
Nick text me your cell \phone and i can show you the graph 602 284 6240
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