C-11

Henry, It’s much cheaper buying it by the drum then 5 gal cans. The Hazmat charge is the same, whether it’s 5 gallons or 54 gallons. C25 used to cost me 17.00 a gallon in a 54 drum. It was at least 20 if not 25 in a 5 gal can. It’s definitely the way. I’ll never buy it any other way, especially if I’m running a complete season. I know that’s not for everyone though. I also heard about VP raising their prices this year. I haven’t bought my fuel yet this year, so I don’t know how that is going change.

Originally Posted by Henrys Toy

Good morning all,
I paid $119.95 at S&K on Long Island for a 5 Gal. container of C-11. I'm going to the dyno soon and wanted to be sure I had enough. I might be going back to pump gas for dyno testing in the future, its cheaper and makes roughly the same power. It was $109.95 from them earlier in the year. Still the most fun I have with my clothes on!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

[Henrys Toy]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

Henry, It’s much cheaper buying it by the drum then 5 gal cans. The Hazmat charge is the same, whether it’s 5 gallons or 54 gallons. C25 used to cost me 17.00 a gallon in a 54 drum. It was at least 20 if not 25 in a 5 gal can. It’s definitely the way. I’ll never buy it any other way, especially if I’m running a complete season. I know that’s not for everyone though. I also heard about VP raising their prices this year. I haven’t bought my fuel yet this year, so I don’t know how that is going change.

Good morning Todd,
You are absolutely correct. I did buy some to make sure I would have enough fuel to finish the dyno session. I do buy fuel by the drum and it is cheaper per gallon then the 5 gallon containers. I was just showing the price increase a couple of months made and it looks like it will increase again. Yes, we went through the pump gas / race gas situation, no need to keep beating that horse. Unfortunately this is a small part of a big picture and I'll keep going as long as I physically can.
Have a Good Day.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

[Rich Biebel]

Atco's fuel prices were very high for the last few years.....

$100 for 5 gals of any high octane VP or Sunoco when they had it.

Much cheaper buying from better sources and larger amounts....

C-11 was $1 more than C-12 the last time I was running either fuel....and for me made very little difference..

The hard part is getting it and transporting it in drums, always has been but it saves a lot of money.

[John Kissel]

There is a Sunoco dealer in Oakhurst that became a full line VP dealer last fall. Call Phil @ 732-496-0098,and see what he can do. He also races and tries to help on prices. John Kissel

[Tom Meyer]

Not trying to slam anybody trying run on a budget, class racing cost money and I would be more concerned with the price of towing verse the price of race gas, Why after spend all the time building the best motor you can then try to get by on the inconsistent of the and quality of pump gas? I guess flame away. Tom

[Rose Racing]

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

Not trying to slam anybody trying run on a budget, class racing cost money and I would be more concerned with the price of towing verse the price of race gas, Why after spend all the time building the best motor you can then try to get by on the inconsistent of the and quality of pump gas? I guess flame away. Tom

Because almost 1000 dollars for a barrel of fuel is BullS%$$ period idc if its liquid gold..... Im waiting till I place my Rockett 112 order here eventually and see how Rockett(Union76) fares for me

[Bill Grubbs]

Forgive me if I am ignorant. Where is this $1000 drum of fuel? I see where people have posted about $100 pails (5 gallons). The smaller the quantity the greater the cost per gallon. It has always been that way. We buy multiple drums at a time. This way the shipping costs is shared among the entire shipment. Over the last few years the shipping has gone up more than the fuel (percentage wise). Shipping costs of a single pail/barrel versus multiple barrels is almost negligible.

I do agree fuel per pass is probably one of the cheapest performance costs in racing, especially if you amortize the costs for everything we buy/use for racing (car, engine, transmissions, motorhome, truck, trailer, hotel, food, beer, etc...) Heck some racers have more in their paint jobs than Billy has in his entire operation

Ultimately each person must decide what their price point is for racing or performance and what their goals are. Billy's price point is probably the lowest of all current racers, but then again he is focused on performance gains vs cents not dollars. If he wanted to build an AA/SA '69 Camaro everybody else would probably want change classes/combinations. Thankfully Billy has different goals/views on racing and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Rose Racing

Because almost 1000 dollars for a barrel of fuel is BullS%$$ period idc if its liquid gold..... Im waiting till I place my Rockett 112 order here eventually and see how Rockett(Union76) fares for me

Why should you be concerned about 1K/barrel fuel? You're going to be running a 302/2V am I right? Put blue Sunoco in it and call it a day!