Pontiac 455 hp reduction

Originally Posted by gumple

The combination as raced was never built by Chrysler.

You don’t even know what combination I run lol.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man conversation over.

[gumple]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

You don’t even know what combination I run lol.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man conversation over.

No. this conversation is not over. I know more than you would like me to know. You are racing a car and beating other racers with a car that was never built by Chrysler and you owe it to all of us out here to provide verifiable information on your combination. There is no reason the rest of us should lay down for you or anybody else. Prove your car here or we can petition NHRA.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by gumple

No. this conversation is not over. I know more than you would like me to know. You are racing a car and beating other racers with a car that was never built by Chrysler and you owe it to all of us out here to provide verifiable information on your combination. There is no reason the rest of us should lay down for you or anybody else. Prove your car here or we can petition NHRA.

I don't believe Todd owes you anything. If you have a beef with Todd's car, take it up with the powers at NHRA.

I guess I will clarify. Classracer‘s version of CNN is reporting false information.
I run the crossram combination which is the A990 superstock version of the car. Which accepted by NHRA and was absolutely built. He thinks I am running the single four barrel.

[Frank Castros]

This is much better than the football game.
Philadelphia Eagles 0
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 24
Please proceed with this joust. It's far more entertaining for sure. Also due to be a route like the game.

31-0
All Philadelphia teams suck.

[gumple]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I guess I will clarify. Classracer‘s version of CNN is reporting false information.
I run the crossram combination which is the A990 superstock version of the car. Which accepted by NHRA and was absolutely built. He thinks I am running the single four barrel.

Sorry for not getting back sooner. I attended an all day NFL Playoff event yesterday and apparently enjoyed myself a little too much. This will be my last post on this thread. It is addressed to the fair-minded men and women who may happen upon it and read it.

Todd offered a clarification above and I will take this opportunity to do the same. The A990 car was certainly built and classified by NHRA as a Super Stock only car. It was NEVER built as a Stock Eliminator car. It is a car with a great heritage but it has no business running in Stock. The fact that this car was accepted in Stock by some inept NHRA employees does not make it right. It is a Super Stock car masqurading as a Stocker.

Finally, my old Gumple heritage is very conservative but we are not greedy nor do we espouse fake news. We may not be dead on the mark every time but we attempt to be honest. Anybody who cries fake news when challenged is a suspect for gaslighting. As mentioned above (and,after having made my thoughts known) I will not be returning to this thread but there other issues that I will post about in the future. Now, to find a couple Tylenols and go to work, yeah it's a holiday. Go 49ers!!!!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by gumple

The A990 car was certainly built and classified by NHRA as a Super Stock only car. It was NEVER built as a Stock Eliminator car. It is a car with a great heritage but it has no business running in Stock. The fact that this car was accepted in Stock by some inept NHRA employees does not make it right. It is a Super Stock car masqurading as a Stocker.

Well Mr. gumple, I will agree with you that the A990 cars were built for SS. So were the FFFord Thunderbolts just to name one. Someone working at a higher pay grade than me decided that these "old" SS cars should be legal in Stock now. IMHO, very few of the newer FS cars should be in Stock. BUT, my opinion doesn't count for much and neither does yours.
Welcome to the 21ST Century!

And OBTW, "the fact that this car was accepted in Stock by some inept NHRA employees" might not make it right but it does make it legal.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Well Mr. gumple, I will agree with you that the A990 cars were built for SS. So were the FFFord Thunderbolts just to name one. Someone working at a higher pay grade than me decided that these "old" SS cars should be legal in Stock now. IMHO, very few of the newer FS cars should be in Stock. BUT, my opinion doesn't count for much and neither does yours.
Welcome to the 21ST Century!

And OBTW, "the fact that this car was accepted in Stock by some inept NHRA employees" might not make it right but it does make it legal.

Pretty sure that the reason for the Ford Thunderbolt, and the A990 MoPars, as possibly some others, came to be legal in NHRA Stock Eliminator, was due to NHRA opening up new classes, (AA/S- AA/SA, and for a bit, AAAS-AAASA) to make room for the new no VIN purpose built drag cars, like the late model COPO,Drag Pack, and Cobra Jet cars. Previously, the Thunderbolt and A990 were classified at less than 8.00, which was the highest pound per C. I. rating in Stock. When NHRA implemented the new, higher weight breaks, that opened the door for the older cars that also came it at less than 8.0 pounds per cube.

The NHRA put a few combos in stock that were SS only. The Hemi race cars, Ford Thunderbolts, ZL1 Camaros. Might be a few more that I don’t know of as well.
Next time you accuse someone of running a combo that is bogus,then tell him he is stealing round wins from other competitors, and threaten to file petitions about it, at least do some research on the driver car combo. You had pretty strong words about my car owner/good friend and myself that proved to be Inaccurate and slanderous. Maybe a retraction is in order? But the fact that you don’t use a real name and remain anonymous so I doubt that will be the case. In fact after that little tirade about us I would say that your credibility is completely shot Not that you ever had any anyway.
As the famous Ed O’Brien used to say have a nice day.

Originally Posted by gumple

Sorry for not getting back sooner. I attended an all day NFL Playoff event yesterday and apparently enjoyed myself a little too much. This will be my last post on this thread. It is addressed to the fair-minded men and women who may happen upon it and read it.

Todd offered a clarification above and I will take this opportunity to do the same. The A990 car was certainly built and classified by NHRA as a Super Stock only car. It was NEVER built as a Stock Eliminator car. It is a car with a great heritage but it has no business running in Stock. The fact that this car was accepted in Stock by some inept NHRA employees does not make it right. It is a Super Stock car masqurading as a Stocker.

Finally, my old Gumple heritage is very conservative but we are not greedy nor do we espouse fake news. We may not be dead on the mark every time but we attempt to be honest. Anybody who cries fake news when challenged is a suspect for gaslighting. As mentioned above (and,after having made my thoughts known) I will not be returning to this thread but there other issues that I will post about in the future. Now, to find a couple Tylenols and go to work, yeah it's a holiday. Go 49ers!!!!

[rboyle]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

The NHRA put a few combos in stock that were SS only. The Hemi race cars, Ford Thunderbolts, ZL1 Camaros. Might be a few more that I don’t know of as well.
Next time you accuse someone of running a combo that is bogus,then tell him he is stealing round wins from other competitors, and threaten to file petitions about it, at least do some research on the driver car combo. You had pretty strong words about my car owner/good friend and myself that proved to be Inaccurate and slanderous. Maybe a retraction is in order? But the fact that you don’t use a real name and remain anonymous so I doubt that will be the case. In fact after that little tirade about us I would say that your credibility is completely shot Not that you ever had any anyway.
As the famous Ed O’Brien used to say have a nice day.

What a dumb *** argument he started just because he doesn't like NHRA allowing that car in Stock. I got zero problems with the cars or combos allowed. I bought a car based on price not knowing much about the classes and combos. My mistake sort of but money was tight at the time and you do what you can afford to do.