Explain to me again, please

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by john ancona

You can be assured that the number is not close to 95%,built by todays rules , if it's
50 % I would be surprised , if you have enhanced head then get the cherry picker ,if not then remove the valve springs ,rockers ,and go back to the 1980's ,oh but wait the rules were enforced ,and the tech department was actually checking engines ,today
it's all about NHRA slowly headed down hill ,I drove by the new NHRA location ,blinked
and missed it !

John, I raced back in the 70's and 80's. All I have to do is look at how fast the cars are going today compared to the good old days when Stock was actually Stock not just a class that we run. I think 95% is on the low side.
We have 170 mph Stockers and a few racers are worried about 200lb spring pressure.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by B Parker

We have 170 mph Stockers and a few racers are worried about 200lb spring pressure.

Ya know, the funny thing about those 170 MPH Stockers is that with the modern valve spring and camshaft technology they're using today, they probably aren't running 200 lbs of pressure.

And about "a few racers are worried about 200 lb spring pressure", as for ME, I'm not worried about it, I'm wishing for it (or less)!

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, the funny thing about those 170 MPH Stockers is that with the modern valve spring and camshaft technology they're using today, they probably aren't running 200 lbs of pressure.

And about "a few racers are worried about 200 lb spring pressure", as for ME, I'm not worried about it, I'm wishing for it (or less)!

Billy, 200lbs sprind preasure. I think you better build that time machine. Let me know when it's done I may want to go for a ride with you. Every year all I hope for is no more rule changes.

[john ancona]

Originally Posted by B Parker

John, I raced back in the 70's and 80's. All I have to do is look at how fast the cars are going today compared to the good old days when Stock was actually Stock not just a class that we run. I think 95% is on the low side.
We have 170 mph Stockers and a few racers are worried about 200lb spring pressure.

I was racing in the 70's, a 428 Cobra Jet ,and set the B/SA record at 11.50 with a street driven Mustang , this was at a time when stock was stock ,to day I seen a 428 Cobra Jet go 10.15 ,one has to say to them self's between the enhancements that some are questionable ,and the tires that are way better now , how do they go so much faster with the same old FE , I am not worried about 200 Lb. spring pressure ,if I can get a lifter that , I could buy at a reasonable cost ,and get it in a reasonable amount of time , I ordered over six months ago and nothing not even a call !

[Billy Nees]

Barry, to be perfectly clear, I don't care about the spring pressure thing one way or the other. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. If it was to become the rule, it would eventually lower the cost to compete but you don't care about that and in A/B/SA neither do I.
What I DO care about is that there are a few people out there who want roller cams allowed in non-roller combos. Now THAT will cost YOU AND ME A LOT OF MONEY to make a couple of people happy!
Love ya Buddy!

[Larry Hill]

Billy that's how my car runs good 60'. All that stored energy in a 75 lbs crank and rods and pistons that weigh an additional 32 lbs. After 330' the car is just making noise.

I do have some knowledge of dooz and donts, if I can remember where I put it.

A good article in the PRI magazine this month

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Barry, to be perfectly clear, I don't care about the spring pressure thing one way or the other. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. If it was to become the rule, it would eventually lower the cost to compete but you don't care about that and in A/B/SA neither do I.
What I DO care about is that there are a few people out there who want roller cams allowed in non-roller combos. Now THAT will cost YOU AND ME A LOT OF MONEY to make a couple of people happy!
Love ya Buddy!

A spring rule would make the cost of going fast higher. Some people wouldn't care about that but we race a performance base class. More time on the spintron and more cams, lifters, springs, retainers, locks etc to test. But who cares about going fast. Lol

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

A spring rule would make the cost of going fast higher. Some people wouldn't care about that but we race a performance base class. More time on the spintron and more cams, lifters, springs, retainers, locks etc to test. But who cares about going fast. Lol

Initially, but in the long run the stability that would be attained would lower the costs.

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, the funny thing about those 170 MPH Stockers is that with the modern valve spring and camshaft technology they're using today, they probably aren't running 200 lbs of pressure.

Changed my mind. I'll take the Blower behind door number 1

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Initially, but in the long run the stability that would be attained would lower the costs.

Man do you know what racers with a limit do..........spend more money to figure out how to get by the restriction