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Old 01-09-2022, 06:30 PM   #1
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Barry, to be perfectly clear, I don't care about the spring pressure thing one way or the other. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. If it was to become the rule, it would eventually lower the cost to compete but you don't care about that and in A/B/SA neither do I.
What I DO care about is that there are a few people out there who want roller cams allowed in non-roller combos. Now THAT will cost YOU AND ME A LOT OF MONEY to make a couple of people happy!
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A spring rule would make the cost of going fast higher. Some people wouldn't care about that but we race a performance base class. More time on the spintron and more cams, lifters, springs, retainers, locks etc to test. But who cares about going fast. Lol
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Old 01-09-2022, 06:49 PM   #2
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A spring rule would make the cost of going fast higher. Some people wouldn't care about that but we race a performance base class. More time on the spintron and more cams, lifters, springs, retainers, locks etc to test. But who cares about going fast. Lol
Initially, but in the long run the stability that would be attained would lower the costs.
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Old 01-09-2022, 08:53 PM   #3
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Initially, but in the long run the stability that would be attained would lower the costs.
Man do you know what racers with a limit do..........spend more money to figure out how to get by the restriction
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A spring rule would make the cost of going fast higher. Some people wouldn't care about that but we race a performance base class. More time on the spintron and more cams, lifters, springs, retainers, locks etc to test. But who cares about going fast. Lol
And a roller lifter rule would add more money than the 1800.00 for the tool steel ones. Most who are even having success with shubecks or even tool steel lifters would make the jump to a new roller lifter profile cam. So by the time everyone buys a couple new cams and some bushed lifters , you would be 2 or 3 thousand light in the wallet. What a great idea.
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Old 01-09-2022, 11:02 PM   #5
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And a roller lifter rule would add more money than the 1800.00 for the tool steel ones. Most who are even having success with shubecks or even tool steel lifters would make the jump to a new roller lifter profile cam. So by the time everyone buys a couple new cams and some bushed lifters , you would be 2 or 3 thousand light in the wallet. What a great idea.
3 is a lot better than 8-10 to replace block, crank, cam, lifters, pistons, etc, etc.
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Old 01-10-2022, 09:55 AM   #6
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If anybody tells you that a bushed lifter won't (or can't) do the same damage with a failure, they're lying. ANY roller lifter, bearing, bushed, whatever, when it fails is going to make an expensive mess.
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Old 01-10-2022, 11:25 AM   #7
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NHRA will not consider this enough reason to add a h u g e expenditure to the rest of the classes. Pretty simple.
One post or poll here does not represent the rest of the country as much as some would like to think.
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3 is a lot better than 8-10 to replace block, crank, cam, lifters, pistons, etc, etc.
There are no bullet proof lifters.
I have seen all brands fail; some more than others.
Too many people believe that just bolting a specialty part is that easy and will solve all their problems. Too many times, it creates more problems.
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Old 01-10-2022, 08:25 PM   #9
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3 is a lot better than 8-10 to replace block, crank, cam, lifters, pistons, etc, etc.
If you’re blowing up solids now, just think what’s going to happen with rollers. Unless you rev it higher with a cam change, you’re wasting time and money. I read somewhere where you were talking about having the same advantages cars in your class. What class do you run and what fast cars are there in that class, that have roller cams?
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Old 01-10-2022, 08:48 PM   #10
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If you’re blowing up solids now, just think what’s going to happen with rollers. Unless you rev it higher with a cam change, you’re wasting time and money. I read somewhere where you were talking about having the same advantages cars in your class. What class do you run and what fast cars are there in that class, that have roller cams?
There you go again putting your spin ,if you have, or had a race car everyone knows everything can fail , let the poor guy alone, he like many others are only trying to come up with a solution , you have beet your drum enough , your simple minded idea that one more thing like the lifters will move stock into super stock when for years now many things have been added to make many thing more reliable in stock engines ,of with I am sure you have on your car ! I know you stated you have been against change ,but like I said before if it's such a big deal why have there been so many changes up to this point , any one or more could have sent stock into super stock !
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