69 z-28 camaro ?

[94 S/ST CHAMP]

Yes all 69 Z/28'S came with the rear bumperguards.

[Chevy454]

I've always thought the '67 Z was the one to start with...ain't gotta tune the weight off of it! A good little small block package in a sexy car...

[Dwight Southerland]

Here is a link that has the descriptions of all hte RPOs. The Z28 package did include the bumper guards in 1969.

http://www.camarosource.ca/php/camar...eels&year=1969

[Tyler Wolcott]

Back to that dual carb setup, I was once told that you did not need that, because those engines were capable of blowing up with just a single carb.

PS. do you know what Z/28 Stands for........ Two Tires Spinning @ 8000 RPM

[Angelo DiTocco]

Originally Posted by Tyler Wolcott

Back to that dual carb setup, I was once told that you did not need that, because those engines were capable of blowing up with just a single carb.

PS. do you know what Z/28 Stands for........ Two Tires Spinning @ 8000 RPM

Maybe 8500........... Here's a video of someone "wringing out" a stock 302 Z-28 motor on an engine dyno.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...yno_156232.htm

[bob gonier]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Wrongo, Bob. I worked at a Chevrolet dealership in 1969 and was best friends with the owners. The cowl hood was an option on all 4-bbl equipped Camaros after 10-1-68, including Z28s. It was spec'ed as a required option with the Pace Car package and the COPO 427 cars, but never a "standard equipment" piece on anything. It's like a four-speed transmission. The Z28 option required ordering a four-speed and front disc brakes, but they were not part of the Z28 option. The Z28 code option only included the special engine, special suspension pieces, HD rear axle, HD cooling and the badging. The cowl hood option was not required on the Z28. Its option code was ZL2.

In the period between 1969 and 1973, I owned a '69 SS 396-325 with a cowl hood and the spoiler package, a standard '69 Camaro 350-255hp with the cowl hood option (Wierd car. It had a four-speed, disc brakes, 12-bolt w/posi, then a single exhaust. The original owner special ordered the car but didn't realize that the regular gas engines all came with a single exhuast system.), a '69 coupe with the Pace Car package, 350-300 hp which required the cowl hood option, a couple of cowl hood optioned Z28s, and a '69 SS 396-375 with the cowl hood package. I also owned a late-July 1969 built Z28 with a flat hood, a December '68 built 1969 Z28 with a flat hood and no positraction (dumb!), a '69 SS 396-350 hp with the standard SS hood and a '69 307 PG standard car with a flat hood. All were original production equipped cars.

The cowl hood was a 1969 year option only.

The short '68 style spoiler was never factory installed. There was a supplier problem shortly after the '69s were introduced because the spoiler package was so popular and the demand exceeded the supply. Many dealers responded by installing the '67-'68 spoilers, which were available, to satisfy the buyers.

The cowl hood has always been such a popular item and so many have been installed on early Camaros that the production availability facts have been blurred in time.

Those are the facts.

Dwight Southerland

OK Dwight........... I'll buy into what you are saying but I owned a few original Z/28's and restored a bunch more and I have personally never seen a 69 Z/28 built after 4/69 have a flat hood. I personally owned a 9/68 built Z/28 with the flat hood and short spoiler and it had all the original paint and was bought from the original owner. I agree a ton of cars were converted to cowl hood/rear spoiler cars but all the factory cowl cars have a "special" hole in the firewall for the wires that operate the cowl flapper. I currently have a 6/69 Z/28 thats a factory cowl car with the D-80 spoiler code. Also..... the throttle arm for factory cowl cars is different..........

Theres no better info than from people who lived it.....................





bob

[Dave Cook]

Originally Posted by Chevy454

Someone built that car (either your buddy or the dealer): you couldn't combine the Z/28 package with the SS package, so you couldn't have a Z/28 option on an L78 car...Z/28 was more than trim, as it included 15" rally wheels and special Z suspension...and the only big block cars to get Z wheels/suspension were the COPO 9737 Camaros (had to have the COPO 9561 427 to be able to get COPO 9737). Also, no gold stripes from factory...only white/black/red, unless it was a pace car which got orange).

You're probably correct, and it has been 35 years since I looked at that car. It sure looked factory to me, but I'm no expert, although I knew it was a one of a kind.
I found the badging, trim, paint and options to be quite unusual even at that time.
Either way, I'd love to find it now....and see what it really was....
If it were a COPO 427 car, could it have had aluminum heads as well, yet been badged as a 396?

I dunno, lots of water under the bridge since then, and I never was a Camaro guy anyway, give me full frames or give me death.

[76 RACER]

I know of one 69 Z/28 that did not come with rear bumper guards. It was bought new at White - Allen Chevrolet in Dayton,O. I got the car in 70 and knew the orig. owner.

[Chevy454]

If it were a COPO 427 car, could it have had aluminum heads as well, yet been badged as a 396?

Nope...no aluminum heads documented so far on 427 Camaros/Chevelles from the factory...unless it's AA/S! LOL!!

And a COPO 427 car would've been minus *any* badging, except for the bowtie in the grill and the generic "Camaro" script on the fenders/nose/decklid...

[Dave Cook]

Okay, thanks for that info.....
This has me bugged, I'm currently trying to track that fella down and find out where that car went, or if he still has it.
It's only been 33 years since I saw him last.....
Of course, at that time, even knowing I was seeing something very unusual, we never dug around for build sheets and stuff....the cars were everywhere, cheap, back then.