Can We Un-ring The Bell

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

9:11 TRACTION CONTROL
Any type of traction-control device, electronic or mechanical, is
prohibited. A traction-control device is any unit or system that
uses live data to control functions of the vehicle, such as tire
slip, which are not controlled by the driver. These devices are,
but not limited to, timing control based on wheel, driveline, or
engine acceleration, braking control, throttle control, tire-shake
meters, vertical acceleration meters, misfire control, stutter
box, relays, and/or rpm-activated chips. See 9:10 TELEMETRY
DEVICES, 8:2 DELAY BOXES/DEVICES, 8:3 IGNITION, 9:1
COMPUTER.

So does (Throttle) mean fuel control?

[west coast]

In 9:1 under computer
It says no vehicles may be equipped with
computers.

Then in the paragraph below that it says
During NHRA competition, a portable computer (e.g., laptop,
PDA, Palm Pilot, programmer, etc.) must be securely mounted
when located in driver’s compartment at any point beyond the
staging area ready line. All functions or values must be preset
prior to this point.

Kinda contradicts it self.
LOL

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by Barry Polley

So does (Throttle) mean fuel control?

The point is the driver drives the car. Your foot controls fuel flow. No device takes over and regulates the flow of fuel for you. Modern efi cars come with stuff like that from the factory. My S/SS friends with efi cars talk about fuel curves and I'm stuck with a 4150 even in SS Modified.
The boxes that drive for you are not "data loggers" data loggers record stuff to be read in the pits to improve that guesswork called racing.


On the topic of rule roll back, FWD conversion cars have no place in SS/GT or Modified. LS motors come in RWD cars and should not be allowed in FWD vehicles.There is just something wrong about a classic Nova staging against a Cobalt and being given the head start... Put them all in Altered

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by FireSale

The point is the driver drives the car. Your foot controls fuel flow. No device takes over and regulates the flow of fuel for you.

This is false. Your foot can be steadily on the floor, and your fuel flow will vary wildly along with engine RPM. Your carburetor is a device that regulates the fuel flow for you.

Similar to a pre-programmed EFI fuel curve using engine RPM and throttle position as the parameters.

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by west coast

In 9:1 under computer
It says no vehicles may be equipped with
computers.

Then in the paragraph below that it says
During NHRA competition, a portable computer (e.g., laptop,
PDA, Palm Pilot, programmer, etc.) must be securely mounted
when located in driver’s compartment at any point beyond the
staging area ready line. All functions or values must be preset
prior to this point.

Kinda contradicts it self.
LOL

Any car with an ECU is equipped with a computer. I think that means you can datalog with a laptop as long as it's bolted down and only recording. The "functions and values" things probably refers to delay boxes in classes allowing them.

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

This is false. Your foot can be steadily on the floor, and your fuel flow will vary wildly along with engine RPM. Your carburetor is a device that regulates the fuel flow for you.

Similar to a pre-programmed EFI fuel curve using engine RPM and throttle position as the parameters.

With a vacuum secondary I see how this works, but at WOT a manual secondary can't ask for more fuel flow from fixed jets and fuel regulator.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by FireSale

With a vacuum secondary I see how this works, but at WOT a manual secondary can't ask for more fuel flow from fixed jets and fuel regulator.

An O2 sensor would disagree.

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by FireSale

The point is the driver drives the car. Your foot controls fuel flow. No device takes over and regulates the flow of fuel for you. Modern efi cars come with stuff like that from the factory. My S/SS friends with efi cars talk about fuel curves and I'm stuck with a 4150 even in SS Modified.
The boxes that drive for you are not "data loggers" data loggers record stuff to be read in the pits to improve that guesswork called racing.


On the topic of rule roll back, FWD conversion cars have no place in SS/GT or Modified. LS motors come in RWD cars and should not be allowed in FWD vehicles.There is just something wrong about a classic Nova staging against a Cobalt and being given the head start... Put them all in Altered

Thanks for your vote on the no FWD conversion cars, several hundred of us are more than happy to ****can our cars just to make you happy.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by FireSale

With a vacuum secondary I see how this works, but at WOT a manual secondary can't ask for more fuel flow from fixed jets and fuel regulator.

Don't pressure differential have an effect on how much fuel your fix jet will flow ?

Stan

[jamie2370]

Technically you can get an LS motor in a FWD monte carlo and Impala...just saying. But......lets keep bitching about stuff that doesn't fit what a certain person wants...I mean it's all about what you want right? You can put a supercharged COPO engine in a 68 camaro, if that car leaves after a classic nova, does that still make it not right. Just asking