New AHFS

[Albert Lee]

Clarifying "curve ball" heads up.

Car A qualifies 105 under, Car B qualifies 75 under. If heads up, both boards read 115 under and normal breakout rules apply.

Just the messenger!

AC

[Bill Bogues]

I'm a little bit confused; how can you break out on a heads up run?

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Bill Bogues

I'm a little bit confused; how can you break out on a heads up run?

Think heads up like in Super Gas... or...?

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Bill Bogues

I'm a little bit confused; how can you break out on a heads up run?

Al explained it above.

[SSDiv6]

If you do a search on this site, you can find numerous earlier postings on how unfair "AHFS" was and many complaints from people that are not competitive in certain classes.

The way I see it, with the new "AHFS", as someone said earlier, the class has gone from a performance class to bracket racing and it will please those that want to race in the class and not work on their cars to make them competitive. We are going to be missing great performance class matches such as AAA, A, B, C and other classes such as U/SA. Due to the class becoming a bracket race and unattractive to many, I can also see many putting their cars for sale too.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

If you do a search on this site, you can find numerous earlier postings on how unfair "AHFS" was and many complaints from people that are not competitive in certain classes.

The way I see it, with the new "AHFS", as someone said earlier, the class has gone from a performance class to bracket racing and it will please those that want to race in the class and not work on their cars to make them competitive. We are going to be missing great performance class matches such as AAA, A, B, C and other classes such as U/SA. Due to the class becoming a bracket race and unattractive to many, I can also see many putting their cars for sale too.

Well now, the way "I" see it, SS and Stock has turned from Eliminators in which the majority of Competitors were Innovators who took pride in doing their own combos and being judged by their winning against the competition, under the watchful eye of Tech, to being a bunch of hobby racers who just want to go fast and win no matter what. And Tech is rarely if ever an issue. How many modern SS/S racers build their own combos or even work on their own stuff? Why should they care if what they're racing is legal or not? Not much is being checked and "we" all know that "everybody's cheating anyway". Besides, it's the 21st century, if you get tossed in Tech, you can always sue the engine builder or NHRA.
How much Tech do you see at a bracket race?

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Well now, the way "I" see it, SS and Stock has turned from Eliminators in which the majority of Competitors were Innovators who took pride in doing their own combos and being judged by their winning against the competition, under the watchful eye of Tech, to being a bunch of hobby racers who just want to go fast and win no matter what. And Tech is rarely if ever an issue. How many modern SS/S racers build their own combos or even work on their own stuff? Why should they care if what they're racing is legal or not? Not much is being checked and "we" all know that "everybody's cheating anyway". Besides, it's the 21st century, if you get tossed in Tech, you can always sue the engine builder or NHRA.
How much Tech do you see at a bracket race?

You have some valid points. NHRA brought some of this upon themselves when they overruled tech inspectors that were doing their jobs, not punishing the violators and some of the freedoms they allowed to take place.

[gumple]

NHRA appears to be doing the right thing here. The AHFS is under constant pressure from all sides and for the most part it had been neutered by dollars and special interests. They say that the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Very tired of reading about "hard work and money spent on these cars" while the slow racers are a bunch of lazy folks who don't want to work on or spend money on their cars. This sport is meant to be open and fair to all racers and these simple rule changes have taken a good step in the right direction. Next, I would hope that NHRA considers and addresses Mr. Nees concerns.
George

[Whalen3186]

Originally Posted by Albert Lee

Clarifying "curve ball" heads up.

Car A qualifies 105 under, Car B qualifies 75 under. If heads up, both boards read 115 under and normal breakout rules apply.

Just the messenger!

AC

This is actually a rule that could help the AHFS work as intended and level the playing field for some of the soft combo’s. Don’t want to risk getting beat via breakout on a heads up run? Easy solution, qualify fast enough so the breakout is set faster than you or your opponent is capable of running.

Not saying I’m 100% in favor of it but it does have some merit. Flame away