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[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Maybe just maybe if A/FX is done right ( Please Lonnie) drag racing has a chance to sustain the sport we all love.

Frank, the Sportsmen have been "sustaining" the sport since the 70s! Bracket racing has been "sustaining" local tracks since the 70s! Local bracket programs have been on the decline for at least the last decade! Big $$$ bracket racing has been declining recently because the price of poker has gotten too high for the average Racer! The pros have gotten down to maybe a dozen teams and maybe a dozen privateers keeping the whole dog-and-pony show alive! the only thing keeping up with participation as far as numbers is the NHRA Sportsman Racers!
Do you really think that "Comp" cars with "Stock" motors is the answer to sustaining the sport (which isn't a sport anymore, it's a hobby)?
When is the delivery date of your chassis scheduled for? Who's doing your motors?


Frank, just an FYI, I'm not picking on you I'm just trying to make a point. Where are all of the A/FX racers going to come from?

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Frank, just an FYI, I'm not picking on you I'm just trying to make a point. Where are all of the A/FX racers going to come from?

If the Pro Stock Team owners become proverbial soothsayers, it's them. If they want to continue to compete, the writing is on the wall. How many fervent fans of Pro Stock are there? Those current cars they race represent nothing to me.

FYI; Billy, There will be no such thing as A/FX Dime Rocket (LOL. As you remember in 1970, Pro Stock cars were being home built by lots of dudes. $$$$ is the difference today. Technology is inflationary contrary to it's definition in my opinion.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

If the Pro Stock Team owners become proverbial soothsayers, it's them. If they want to continue to compete, the writing is on the wall. How many fervent fans of Pro Stock are there? Those current cars they race represent nothing to me.

FYI; Billy, There will be no such thing as A/FX Dime Rocket (LOL. As you remember in 1970, Pro Stock cars were being home built by lots of dudes. $$$$ is the difference today. Technology is inflationary contrary to it's definition in my opinion.

Thank You! You're making my point for me.
Even IF every Pro Stock team builds one AND IF half of the Factory Showdown teams do and maybe a FSS or FS Racer or two, it's not enough cars and those cars are going to be built at the expense of car counts in other eliminators. How can NHRA expect Racers to build a what, 200k, 500k, 1m dollar program on the chance that they're going to get a high dollar sponsor or win a championship? Good luck with that! It's not the 70s anymore when your local GM dealer would sponsor your homebuilt Pro Stock Camaro.

Getting back on track here, NHRA is building another expensive swimming pool and are very willing to spend the time and effort AND our membership monies to do so while totally ignoring the needs of the Sportsman Racers in the kiddie pool. What does it cost them to add a class or two to Stock?

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Thank You! You're making my point for me.
Even IF every Pro Stock team builds one AND IF half of the Factory Showdown teams do and maybe a FSS or FS Racer or two, it's not enough cars and those cars are going to be built at the expense of car counts in other eliminators. How can NHRA expect Racers to build a what, 200k, 500k, 1m dollar program on the chance that they're going to get a high dollar sponsor or win a championship? Good luck with that! It's not the 70s anymore when your local GM dealer would sponsor your homebuilt Pro Stock Camaro.

Getting back on track here, NHRA is building another expensive swimming pool and are very willing to spend the time and effort AND our membership monies to do so while totally ignoring the needs of the Sportsman Racers in the kiddie pool. What does it cost them to add a class or two to Stock?

Billy, Exactly- The FX class will hurt the FS class counts for sure.
They had the perfect opportunity when the FS cars were unveiled but that did not happen. Who plans this? Obviously not racers.

[doglover44]

I always thought when the Factory Stock first came out it was gonna be the new Pro Stock.

[Frank Castros]

I'm just asking, when Factory Stock Showdown is contested at National events do the fans stay in the grandstands?

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

I'm just asking, when Factory Stock Showdown is contested at National events do the fans stay in the grandstands?

I have no idea. By the time they start the q runs for FS the sportsman classes are a couple rounds deep into their eliminator rounds and most of these cars are gone off the property. By friday afternoon at most national events half of the sportsman field has been eliminated.
NHRA has done everything they can to kill the sportsman programs. The short quotas and adding bracket classes like TS and TD. Adding Factory Stock Showdown and now this AFX class. This will be another very expensive class with over the line burnouts where they need 5-6 guys at the starting line to fan the doors, adjust the wheelie bars and get the car lined up just to blow the tires off at the drop of the clutch because they are on a small tire There is just too many of these classes now and none are very healthy. Stock and SS are holding their own for now. But we are a dieing too

If we dont get this country back on track politicly then all racing is going to suffer.