Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

[Rat Patrol]

DC - Ive started a fire I need to put out on FB.

Re your 69 Stick results sheet. - It seems the SS/E class for L72 Camaros is just out of whack....when 396 Novas ran in SS/D.

So it raises some questions....

Was the SS/C 69 Camaro of Jenkins actually a 396/375.....or even an L72 - The ZL1suggestion has everyone in a froth! 😆

Further - if Olster ran an L72, what class would it have fit?

[oldskool]

"...B/SA=
8.50 in 1968
8.00 in 1969..."

That solves the '68 B/SA pic, for me. Dealers usually ran the cars while they were still the current model year.

According to my math, using an online calculator, a factor of at least 391hp would have been needed to put a '69 Bird into class B. S0, anything from 391 thru 414 would put it into B. 415 would put it into A, & 390 would put it into C, IF my calculations are correct.

So, could it have possibly been 395, 400, 405, or 410, in '69, maybe ?

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by oldskool

"...B/SA=
8.50 in 1968
8.00 in 1969..."

That solves the '68 B/SA pic, for me. Dealers usually ran the cars while they were still the current model year.

According to my math, using an online calculator, a factor of at least 391hp would have been needed to put a '69 Bird into class B. S0, anything from 391 thru 414 would put it into B. 415 would put it into A, & 390 would put it into C, IF my calculations are correct.

So, could it have possibly been 395, 400, 405, or 410, in '69, maybe ?

Yes that's the right track. I dont KNOW for sure what the RA2 was factored to, so in theory it could be up there.

The RA4 was factored to 380hp, so unless there was a special RA4 factor for just the 69 Firebird (not likely back then) I'd rule that one out.

When I look at where the RA4 GTO's ran, their RA4 had to be factored to 380hp, maybe 385hp but no more than that, and Dwight S said 380hp on the other thread.

So I'm still betting Ben Wolf was a really high factored RA2, or a Chevelle300 or Nova L72 car (1969 was the 1st year for auto trans for the L72). Just dont know.

[Rat Patrol]

DC....Its OK, I put it out. A guy had difficulty believing the L72 Camaro could be in SS/E.

In fact, its right on the line btwn SS/D and SS/E (7.56). When I pointed out the SS/C ZL1 was at 6.51..he started to realise how little separates the classes.

As an additional ‘win’, I was able to show how the 396 68 Nova met SS/D in 68, but slipped to SS/E in 69.....due to weight break changes.


I think a lot of people struggle with the concept of a 396 Nova racing an L72 Camaro....but the weight breaks don’t lie....just shows what a pig that L72 motor was!

But seriously......your sheets are invaluable....good job!!

[oldskool]

"...Dwight S said 380hp on the other thread..."

Maybe it was 380 at the beginning of the season, then increased later in the season. That could make it possible that a '69 Bird could have run C/SA at the Winter Nats, then B/SA at a later '69 season race.

Maybe the Phil Monteith '69 Bird ran B/SA at either an AHRA or IHRA track. Or maybe that pic was taken in a later year. Or ?

It's possible that not a single Pontiac combo ran NHRA B/SA, in '69. Not sure.

Was a '69 RAIV Bird available early enuff in '68 to make some of the late season races ?

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

DC - Ive started a fire I need to put out on FB.

Re your 69 Stick results sheet. - It seems the SS/E class for L72 Camaros is just out of whack....when 396 Novas ran in SS/D.

So it raises some questions....

Was the SS/C 69 Camaro of Jenkins actually a 396/375.....or even an L72 - The ZL1suggestion has everyone in a froth! 😆

Further - if Olster ran an L72, what class would it have fit?

OK I will try to get a new account there even though Zuck's customer service is non existent.

Is there a Facebook group where all this excitement is happening?