Easy way to help AHFS work

[SS/GSI]

Quote: Kevin, Where are we going with this? I don't disagree with much of what you said, but what would be your plan?
Tom put forth his. NHRA isn't going to do it, but that's the theme here.

Mark, I thought I was pretty clear on how to "FIX" the AHFS. Bring back performance to the STK and SS Classes. More class runoffs(we use to have class for either STK or SS at every National Event, some had both (Indy, Gators and Vegas) plus we also had 3 Sports Nationals! Bring Back the Performers Award. Perhaps points for top 5 or top 10 qualifiers, points for class winners? More review periods, not less. I like Charlie's idea for qualifying 64 cars at National Events; however it will not make the top half push themselves anymore than they do now....the bottom half are the ones that will need to start running it out or harder thus probably pushing the fields into "mineshaft" more often and negating more 1 sec under runs which would have triggered reviews for HP.

Most of the competitors voicing their displeasure with "soft combinations" and the AHFS system not working are also competitors(generally speaking) which at one time had under factored combos themselves. They ran them hard, received HP over a long period of time and now are pissed because other guys are in the same position they were 10-20 years ago. And that is another huge problem....it took a lot of the older combos a decade or more to get all the HP they have today...but just like Millennials everybody needs everything right away, "Instant Gratification"!!! If you want the system to work then don't move classes, chase guys down with those combos and make them run hard! Ohhh but that 's right, you might have to be the sacrificial lamb a few times to get results... Yes it will take time for them to get HP put on those combos, just like all the other combos before them and probably longer now due to the dilution of the classes and lack of performance rewards. But it will happen.

Changing or "tweaking" the AHFS to MF all these combos in 1 or 2 years is nothing but absurd and childish!!! Like I said before, there is more than one way for the competitors with these combos to get around receiving mass quantities of HP....If you think they will just play into your hands and destroy their s@#t for a #1 qualifying position at a nothing race, that's crazy!

PS: Mark there are two other options...work on your stuff or change your stuff!!! IMHO

Rant over....the minority groups will prosper in todays societal environment!

[Mark Yacavone]

Mark, I thought I was pretty clear on how to "FIX" the AHFS. Bring back performance to the STK and SS Classes. More class runoffs(we use to have class for either STK or SS at every National Event, some had both (Indy, Gators and Vegas) plus we also had 3 Sports Nationals! Bring Back the Performers Award. Perhaps points for top 5 or top 10 qualifiers, points for class winners? More review periods, not less. I like Charlie's idea for qualifying 64 cars at National Events;

Thanks for clarifying ..You're on the record..Thank you

[Stephen Belanger]

This is a Performance Base Class work on your **** the fast will always be fast because they put the work in to make it fast and to keep it fast. The combo's that have been protected are still good because all those poeple worked together for the most part to keep them that way. I'm all for points for qualifying and more heads up and this is coming from the dad that let his kid get his teeth kicked in a heads up semi final round but it is what it is
Just my 2 cents Stephen Belanger

[Frank Castros]

"Protecting" a combo indicates to me it's under factored. Case in point, 350/255. Sorry James. Just my 2 cents.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

"Protecting" a combo indicates to me it's under factored. Case in point, 350/255. Sorry James. Just my 2 cents.

No way that combo is under factored. Hmmn let me think a certain 1969 Dart with the 383 is way under factored. But more power to him. He worked on it and protects it. Nothing stopping anyone from buying or building one.

[James Perrone]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

"Protecting" a combo indicates to me it's under factored. Case in point, 350/255. Sorry James. Just my 2 cents.

Really? You pick the wrong combo. 350/255 at 280 HP. Under factored? ��
First of all the car BANGING my combo is a 1970-to 1972 move claiming as a1969 nova
Is that fair? Do I get to change the front bumper?
How about the 1982 to 1985 camaro. At 263hp
Combo takes a 122 under hit
Monday gets hp. By Thursday gets a new front bumper and loses EARNINED HP
So there the problem with AHFS. It’s not applied when earned
FACTS. So please think first when throwing stones

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

"Protecting" a combo indicates to me it's under factored. Case in point, 350/255. Sorry James. Just my 2 cents.

Yeah Frank, I think you're a little bit off on this one. The 350/255 has been getting beat up since it was new.
Let us not forget all of the old wedge combos that got loads of HP reductions during the old Gracia days. There's still a few of them that are real soft.

[Frank Castros]

James,
I love your passion but I'm not throwing stones if I'm wrong I stand corrected. But part of my example and I should have clarified this is that the only original part required on the 350/255 is the intake manifold, am I wrong? And I believe because of that some racers are protecting that combo.

Billy,
As far as the Max Wedge example, Dan Dvorak (RIP) was pretty tight with some unnamed NHRA Tech guy(s) in Glendora.

[Frank Castros]

Billy,
If you're implying that Steve Wann's '62 combo is soft, why? I only ask because nobody before him was able to make a 413 fall out of a tree. John's '64 car is very fast but with the AA/SA 10.70 index I don't believe he can run a .40. Did I miss someone?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Billy,
As far as the Max Wedge example, Dan Dvorak (RIP) was pretty tight with some unnamed NHRA Tech guy(s) in Glendora.

I didn't say anything about MAX wedge.