Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

oldskool · 10-30-2021, 03:12 AM

"...1969 now published. Thank you both for your help..."

I noticed just a couple of things about the Pontiac info, which are very minor.

(1) About the Ben Wolf car, which we decided, if it was indeed a Pontiac, had to be either a '68 or '69 Bird, with RA2 or RA4 engine: Since you decided on a '69, the factory rating for the RA4 engine, in a '69 Bird, is 345, not 375. It's factory rated 370 in a '69 GTO. Don't know what the NHRA factors were in '69. Maybe it was 375 & that's why you used that number.

(2) Later you referred to a GTO RA4 engine as an "oval port". Pontiac guys have always referred to 'em as "round" port. The '68 RA2, '69 & '70 RA4, '71 & '72 455HO, '73 & '74 SD455 engines were all said to have "round" port heads, since the exhaust ports were all perfectly round. Just as a side note, the '69 thru '72 round port engines also had aluminum intake manifolds.

Again I'll say these are very minor things, but will be quickly noticed by most all Pontiac guys who read it.

I suppose each car brand has certain terminology for their equipment. Some Pontiac guys are real sticklers for using the term "Tri-Power", rather than "Three Deuces". I personally prefer to use "Three Deuces". I suppose that's because of the goofy GTO song I've always loved. You know, "Three deuces & a 4 speed, & a 389".

But, because Tri-Power seems to be more acceptable to most Pontiac guys, I've tried to use Tri-Power, when posting info. But, in person, I'll usually say a car has 3-deuces, rather than saying "It's a Tri-Power car".

https://pontiactripower.com/

oldskool · 10-30-2021, 04:39 AM

Just as most people like to root for the home team, I'd like to see more Pontiacs in your results.

2 cars that come to mind, that I don't remember seeing, are the Greg Murnane '67 "Limelighter" GTO & the Gary Moore '61 "Acre Maker" Pontiac.

Both cars were nat record holders & class winners. Moore won the NHRA div 4 points in '68. IIRC, Murnane was #2 in div 5 points with his GTO.

Besides just me wanting more Pontiac coverage, just because I'm a Pontiac guy, once the Mopars took over, in the mid '60's, Mopars & Fords are about all you see. So, for those later '60's years, having more Pontiac pics would just add a little more variety to the presentation.

And, considering all the super strong Ford & Mopar competition, it seems to me to have been quite a feat to win class & set records, with a Pontiac.

Hey, this is just a completely biased post. I admit it !

10-30-2021, 03:12 AM	#1
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68 "...1969 now published. Thank you both for your help..." I noticed just a couple of things about the Pontiac info, which are very minor. (1) About the Ben Wolf car, which we decided, if it was indeed a Pontiac, had to be either a '68 or '69 Bird, with RA2 or RA4 engine: Since you decided on a '69, the factory rating for the RA4 engine, in a '69 Bird, is 345, not 375. It's factory rated 370 in a '69 GTO. Don't know what the NHRA factors were in '69. Maybe it was 375 & that's why you used that number. (2) Later you referred to a GTO RA4 engine as an "oval port". Pontiac guys have always referred to 'em as "round" port. The '68 RA2, '69 & '70 RA4, '71 & '72 455HO, '73 & '74 SD455 engines were all said to have "round" port heads, since the exhaust ports were all perfectly round. Just as a side note, the '69 thru '72 round port engines also had aluminum intake manifolds. Again I'll say these are very minor things, but will be quickly noticed by most all Pontiac guys who read it. I suppose each car brand has certain terminology for their equipment. Some Pontiac guys are real sticklers for using the term "Tri-Power", rather than "Three Deuces". I personally prefer to use "Three Deuces". I suppose that's because of the goofy GTO song I've always loved. You know, "Three deuces & a 4 speed, & a 389". But, because Tri-Power seems to be more acceptable to most Pontiac guys, I've tried to use Tri-Power, when posting info. But, in person, I'll usually say a car has 3-deuces, rather than saying "It's a Tri-Power car". https://pontiactripower.com/

10-30-2021, 04:39 AM	#2
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68 Just as most people like to root for the home team, I'd like to see more Pontiacs in your results. 2 cars that come to mind, that I don't remember seeing, are the Greg Murnane '67 "Limelighter" GTO & the Gary Moore '61 "Acre Maker" Pontiac. Both cars were nat record holders & class winners. Moore won the NHRA div 4 points in '68. IIRC, Murnane was #2 in div 5 points with his GTO. Besides just me wanting more Pontiac coverage, just because I'm a Pontiac guy, once the Mopars took over, in the mid '60's, Mopars & Fords are about all you see. So, for those later '60's years, having more Pontiac pics would just add a little more variety to the presentation. And, considering all the super strong Ford & Mopar competition, it seems to me to have been quite a feat to win class & set records, with a Pontiac. Hey, this is just a completely biased post. I admit it ! Last edited by oldskool; 10-30-2021 at 04:41 AM.