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Old 10-03-2021, 01:33 AM   #1
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Default Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

Back to Dick Simon’s car -

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ACE-CAR-161420
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Old 10-03-2021, 07:58 AM   #2
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Yes, that's all we can find.
But the car doesnt fit class - not even close.
The Fairlane 500 Convert fits
D/SA=9.00:
3688/410=9.00 exactly with 427/410hp-4v

If swapped to the next engine down, the car is now too heavy:
H/SA=11.00
3670/320=11.47 with 390/320hp-GT

So it can't be that car, unless NHRA let them swap a GTO engine in there LOL.
Here's 4 possibilities, but nobody seems able to hunt down the car:

10.18 dick simon 67 fair2ds 390gt320-4v

10.11 dick simon 67 mustang2cv 390gt320-4v

10.49 dick simon 67 fairlane GTA 390gt320-4v

10.25 dick simon 67 Big Ford Ranch Wagon 427mr410-4v
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Old 10-07-2021, 05:10 AM   #3
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OK....New challenge.

Sox won SS eliminator at the 69 SpringNationals.

Can’t find any result for SS/B. or SS/BA.

Anybody?
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All I have for SS/ is a narrative from Drag News, poor quality in some areas so cant read it all.

SS/B Vanke 10.73 at 111.90

SS/BA Grotheer 10.83 at 117.3

Were they DQ'd later? No idea!

SS/Eliminator Sox 10.63 at 114.5

Obviously all 3 brake light runs so as to not set a record!

Do you have a sheet that shows the cars/years?
I cant read the SS/H car (arthur evans).
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All I have for SS/ is a narrative from Drag News, poor quality in some areas so cant read it all.

SS/B Vanke 10.73 at 111.90

SS/BA Grotheer 10.83 at 117.3

Were they DQ'd later? No idea!

SS/Eliminator Sox 10.63 at 114.5

Obviously all 3 brake light runs so as to not set a record!

Do you have a sheet that shows the cars/years?
I cant read the SS/H car (arthur evans).
No sheet for 69 Spring SS I’m afraid .- I have been able to confirm the Grotheer/Vanke times off facebook.

I did find this, however....

Also....can find ZERO reference to ‘G Gurch’ - World Champ Stock Elim’

Is the name the correct spelling?
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Nice find, picture of Simon's 67 Fairlane ragtop in A/SA.
Best likely fit is
1968 A/SA=8.00

1967 Fairlane ragtop, 427/425-8v factored at 463hp (they vary from about 460-463hp back-calculating the factoring) comes out at W/P=8.01.

Perfect fit to class, but so was the 427/410-4v Fairlane/Comet 2door post, and ran the same class A/SA=8.00. And that 4v combo, left unfactored at 410hp, was stronger - lots of wins. But the flat-hood 427-8v was factored too high. The Glass hood 427-8v combo was only factored at 472hp. The cold air was worth more than 472-463=9 hp or even 472-460=12 hp.

The FLAT-hood FACTORED 427-8v wasnt a very competitive combo- I'm not sure if I found any national wins with it. Factored too high at least back then.

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Old 04-28-2023, 10:12 PM   #7
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No sheet for 69 Spring SS I’m afraid .- I have been able to confirm the Grotheer/Vanke times off facebook.

I did find this, however....

Also....can find ZERO reference to ‘G Gurch’ - World Champ Stock Elim’

Is the name the correct spelling?
Just to update any readers here (kinda quiet lately) we finally figured out the photo here of Dick Simon's 67 Fairlane Ragtop vs Truman Fields' Hard Times 68 Firebird is from Sep 1974 US Nationals at Indy. Simon in A/SA=8.00, 427-8v under the steel hood. Fields in C/S=9.00, RA1 under the hood from about 1972-74 or so, maybe longer.
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