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Old 09-30-2021, 08:54 AM   #1
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You're not asking the right Ford people if they don't know who Dick Simon is.
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Well thanks for that! Sounds like 67 Ford is right then.

See the pg4 tables I did - my best guess there is a Fairlane 390gt/320hp.
2-door sedan, W/P=10.22.

Any recollection of what cars Dick Simon ran?
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:40 AM   #2
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Well thanks for that! Sounds like 67 Ford is right then.

See the pg4 tables I did - my best guess there is a Fairlane 390gt/320hp.
2-door sedan, W/P=10.22.

Any recollection of what cars Dick Simon ran?
67 Fairlane 500 conv. with a 427/410.
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:07 AM   #3
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67 Fairlane 500 conv. with a 427/410.
Ok but unless it was a 427-2bbl (LOL) it wont fit class:
3688/410=9.00
Fairlane Convertible 427/410hp
That would run up in D/S=9.00 or D/SA=9.00 class.

That's why I guessed the 390gt/320hp, which, with its lower rating (vs the 66 at 335hp) but the same legal C6AE-R heads and 428pi aluminum intake, was not too bad of a combo.

The 390gt Mustangs fit E/S=9.50 class, and the 289hp/271 Mustangs fit G/S=10.50 class.

A Mustang Convertible 390gt/320 fits F/SA=10.00 at
3235/320=10.11
So, could be a Fairlane 2dr post or Mustang Convert.

I cant get anything else to fit, IF its a 67 Ford.
Usually if it's a Mustang they'll say that, and "Ford" usually means eg Galaxie or Fairlane so I guessed the Fairlane that fit.

A big Ford 2dr Ranch Wagon fits at
4203/410=10.25
Legal in the current class guide, but I didn't think Ford put the 427 in wagons which is how Charbonneau's 427 Fairlane wagon later got banned as of 1970 or so.

But this DOES fit -
Do you think it could be a 427 Wagon?

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Old 09-30-2021, 11:32 AM   #4
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This says C/SA for Dick Simon



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C/SA=9.00 makes sense for the Fairlane Convert 427/410 shown.
In 1968, and again from 1973-up, NHRA had
C/SA=9.00-9.49
It says Simon set records in the Fairlane Convert 427/410- I cant find them so I wonder if they were set in the 1973-up timeframe?

But the 1969 Indy results say Simon in D/SA=10.00 class, and the 427 makes too much power to go there except in that big Ford wagon.
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C/SA=9.00 makes sense for the Fairlane Convert 427/410 shown.
In 1968, and again from 1973-up, NHRA had
C/SA=9.00-9.49
It says Simon set records in the Fairlane Convert 427/410- I cant find them so I wonder if they were set in the 1973-up timeframe?

But the 1969 Indy results say Simon in D/SA=10.00 class, and the 427 makes too much power to go there except in that big Ford wagon.
It's my understanding that the Fairlane was not a factory 427 car.
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It's my understanding that the Fairlane was not a factory 427 car.
It sure was!
1966: About 57 built, AFAIK all hardtops, glass hood, almost all dual quad, maybe a few single quad.

1967: About 229 427 Fairlanes built and 60 427 Comets built. My understanding is all were FACTORY with flat STEEL hoods, but a Ford letter made the glass hood legal. All were built as 4speeds but again a Ford letter made the C6 auto NHRA legal. Most or all were 2dr post or hardtop cars, although the 427 is listed for the convertible too, and the Fairlane wagon (never heard of one built though, neither had NHRA), and the hardtop XL, but not the hardtop GT.

TODAY, you can run the 427 in just about any 66-67 Fairlane you want, but the rules were a little tighter from 68-70.

Lots of wins for the 427/410-4v flat hood Fairlane, and lots of SS wins for the glass hood 427/425-8v Fairlane even though it was factored to 460-472hp by NHRA back in the 1967-71 era.
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