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Old 09-24-2021, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

At the Midwest Nats, Julie Biermann ran an .872 under, 10.678, which was good enuff for the #26 position. Randi Lyn Shipp was #35.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

Julie's 10.678 is a pretty respectable number. Don't know what her best time is, running in D/SA. Nowadays, you never know when/if a car is running all-out, or sandbaggin to protect their combo, by preventing an NHRA hp factor increase. No good reason to make your combo less competitive, just to see your name higher up on a Q-list.

She went 10.554 @ Indy 2020.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop

Don't know Randi Lyn's quickest time, in D/SA. But, she turned a 10.502, @ Indy 2019, which was 1.048 under. She's won at least 7 national events

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

They're 2 of the quickest D-port 1st gen Birds, ever. Mid 10's is quicker than similar Super Stockers ran back in the '70's.
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Old 09-24-2021, 11:00 PM   #2
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At the Midwest Nats, Julie Biermann ran an .872 under, 10.678, which was good enuff for the #26 position. Randi Lyn Shipp was #35.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

Julie's 10.678 is a pretty respectable number. Don't know what her best time is, running in D/SA. Nowadays, you never know when/if a car is running all-out, or sandbaggin to protect their combo, by preventing an NHRA hp factor increase. No good reason to make your combo less competitive, just to see your name higher up on a Q-list.

She went 10.554 @ Indy 2020.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop

Don't know Randi Lyn's quickest time, in D/SA. But, she turned a 10.502, @ Indy 2019, which was 1.048 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

They're 2 of the quickest D-port 1st gen Birds, ever. Mid 10's is quicker than similar Super Stockers ran back in the '70's.
I'm pretty sure you'll find that Tim /Julie's car is now a RA II
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Old 09-24-2021, 11:27 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure you'll find that Tim /Julie's car is now a RA II
OK. Thanks for the info. I have no way of knowing that, since weight can be added/removed to move up or down a class. With @ 333hp D-port engine, it's a natural D/SA.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...9&MAKE=Pontiac

@ only 340hp, the round port engine Bird is also a natural D/SA. IMO, the round port heads & higher lift cam will MORE than make up that 7hp difference. So, if a racer don't mind running the rare & valuable round port heads, that seems like the smart way to go.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...3&MAKE=Pontiac

I remember that Leo Glasbrenner use to run C/SA with his round port '68. At least I THOUGHT it was round port. But hey, I could be wrong about that, too. I don't have any inside sources to keep up with what every Pontiac racer is running. So, most of the time, it's just a guess, on my part.

Also remember that Randi Lyn sometimes runs C/SA with her '67, which MUST run D-port heads.

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Old 11-14-2021, 10:42 PM   #4
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"...But, are you sure which combo Arnie Toftland ran?.."

I think we covered this in another thread.

Arnie Toftland ran the "Viking" cars. One was a '70 GTO.

The other was apparently run as a '71 Bird, in H/SA. The pic I have of it & most every other '71 Bird Stocker I have a pic of, ran H/S or H/SA. BUT, as we've discovered, SOME years the class weight breaks were different, sometimes changing the class a car would run, from one season to the next. Also, it could have run a 400 engine, a D-port 455, or a 455HO round port engine. Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out this car also ran I/SA or G/SA, in certain years.
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Old 11-16-2021, 11:23 PM   #5
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Found a few pics in the last couple of days, which I don't think I've posted. Some are just different pics of cars I've mentioned earlier in the thread.

The 1st is another pic of the "Lil 2 Speed" '64 GTO.

Then there are a couple of '65's.

Pic 4 is one of the Royal '66 PR cars. I just posted it because I think it looks cool from the front.

#5 is a pic of the Nemesis '69 Judge I don't think I've posted.

#6 is a pic of the "Big Iron" '69 Judge, in the staging lanes.

#7 is the "Big Iron" '70 Judge, at the same track, plus another '70 Judge behind it.

#8 is a Grand Prix Stocker which I've never seen before.

#9 is another pic of the '60 "Big Iron", in the pits.
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Here's a few more pics I got recently.

The 1st 3 are '69 Birds.

#1 is the Royal "Test Car". Don't know what all they tested with it.

#2 is a Towne Pontiac '69 Bird, running C/S.

#3 is the Royal 350 powered '69 Bird. I assume they only ran one of these. Don't know.

#4 appears to be a '73 Ventura, driven by Jack Matyas, running Q/S. He later ran a '74 Ventura & a '74 GTO. All 3 MAY have been the same car, with different body parts/trim. Running in Q/S, it may have had a 2-barrel. Not sure. I know that in '74, the 4-barrel 350 ran O class.

The next 4 pics are of 3 '58 models.

The last pic is of a '62, running E/S. Michael is one of the names on the car. I assume that is Bob Michael, & the car is one of the MANY Pontiacs he had a hand in.
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A guy on another site is asking for info on the Ray Hunt Pontiacs. This pic of a '72 A-body is all I can find. It may have been a Super Stocker, at the time. Can't tell, for sure. I think Ray was connected to Mid-America Speed Centers. May have owned it. Don't know.

Anybody have more info on Ray Hunt Pontiacs ?
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A guy on another site is asking for info on the Ray Hunt Pontiacs. This pic of a '72 A-body is all I can find. It may have been a Super Stocker, at the time. Can't tell, for sure. I think Ray was connected to Mid-America Speed Centers. May have owned it. Don't know.

Anybody have more info on Ray Hunt Pontiacs ?

Don't know if this is the same Ray Hunt.


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"... A consistent NHRA winner plus two-time IHRA Northern National Championship wins with racing photos included..."

Would love to see those pics & links to the race win results.

"...Don't know if this is the same Ray Hunt..."

I don't know either.

Note: Ray is connected to the "Warrior" intakes, which were supposedly copies of the original "Nash" intake. May have even had a business called "Warrior Racing Products". He gets real bad reviews on some Pontiac sites. Here's one of the "nice" threads about him.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=422060

But, I'm not interested in that. I'm only interested in the Pontiac powered cars he may have either driven or sponsored, in Stock or Super Stock.

Assume the '67 linked may have looked similar to this F/SA '67, but a bit more red.
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