Eating Crow - Tear Down at Indy

[gmeyer]

Word going around was wheel base was wrong.
greg

[Paradigm Shift]

I'm saying that the NHRA determined the car was not in compliance when competing on Wednesday.


I did not say that the NHRA arrived at that conclusion on Wednesday.


I did say that that subsequently, the car was ineligible for competition on Thursday.

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift

I'm saying that the NHRA determined the car was not in compliance when competing on Wednesday.


I did not say that the NHRA arrived at that conclusion on Wednesday.


I did say that that subsequently, the car was ineligible for competition on Thursday.

I get that and so does the NHRA apparently which was why he was tossed out after his 1st round win and Hebert was reinstated. This is all an unknown until after it is inspected. The timing of the inspection determined the action taken. They cannot go back in time.

Do you honestly think that every other car that ran the 1st round was completely free of any technical infractions? Maybe they were or maybe some aren't. It isn't known until they are inspected thoroughly which is a whole nuther issue.

That is not meant to point fingers at anyone, but my point is that I don't disagree that it shouldn't have been eligible to run the first round according to the technical inspection. My point is that this wasn't known until after the 1st round of eliminations were run.

We are in agreement that the tech department deemed it ineligible for competition at this race. My point is that they didn't know it until after the 1st round. What are you expecting them to do differently without any advanced knowledge? You did say this "With this fact established, this car should not have been among those scheduled to compete on Thursday." So how would that work?

[Paradigm Shift]

Now we're closing in on the true concern here.

Why not examine the car during the fourth round or after the semi-final?

While somewhat better than in later rounds, this is not an endeavor that should take place after the first round of the eliminator.

What then for a 127 car field if all of the alternates were accepted and this competitor has loaded up and left Wednesday night?

Whether by simple oversight, inaccurate measurement, careless preparation and assembly or by virtue of a flagrant effort to circumvent the established and accepted rules and procedures, the implications this behavior may have on a great deal of competitors and supporting endeavors can be incredibly onerous and far-reaching.

It is vital that there be the utmost respect for competition and competitors.

[Wyatt Wagner]

Hello everyone. Today at tear down my wheelbase was 1/2 inch too short. The engine side of things was 100% correct. My wheelbase has been checked 2 previous times in the past couple of years and was correct. Was extremely shocked and disappointed today as nothing has changed on the car since. 1/2 inch short wheelbase was the disqualification.

[Brian Oakes]

Sorry for your toss Wyatt, **** happens, i know you will get it straighten out before next race, on the tear downs, i'am with them 100% lets keep people honest, and with the schl.there, this would have been the time to do it. At lease they are trying ,Hats off to Lonnie and crew, hope everyone enjoys the race, and for the ones on here the cannot give there name up to discuss this,should not be on here, and my correct name is posted up in the left corner.

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift

Now we're closing in on the true concern here.

Why not examine the car during the fourth round or after the semi-final?

While somewhat better than in later rounds, this is not an endeavor that should take place after the first round of the eliminator.

What then for a 127 car field if all of the alternates were accepted and this competitor has loaded up and left Wednesday night?

Whether by simple oversight, inaccurate measurement, careless preparation and assembly or by virtue of a flagrant effort to circumvent the established and accepted rules and procedures, the implications this behavior may have on a great deal of competitors and supporting endeavors can be incredibly onerous and far-reaching.

It is vital that there be the utmost respect for competition and competitors.

It is rare that a car is torn down once eliminations begin. That was one of the nice things about the alternating days for class at Indy in the past so it could get sorted out before eliminations begin. I was surprised to see it done after the 1st round, but I don't think it is unprecedented. There weren't any more rounds scheduled for the rest of the day so it made it plausible.

There are spot inspections during the later rounds at several races that don't involve a head pulled or something time consuming. You will see easy to remove items like a carb/throttle body or the loose ballast inspections that seem to be the rage in Division 4 a couple of years ago. Several cars got tossed with loose ballast and the round loser was reinstated in most all cases.

[doglover44]

Originally Posted by Wyatt Wagner

Hello everyone. Today at tear down my wheelbase was 1/2 inch too short. The engine side of things was 100% correct. My wheelbase has been checked 2 previous times in the past couple of years and was correct. Was extremely shocked and disappointed today as nothing has changed on the car since. 1/2 inch short wheelbase was the disqualification.

Hope you get it sorted out sucks you got Dqed

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Wyatt Wagner

Hello everyone. Today at tear down my wheelbase was 1/2 inch too short. The engine side of things was 100% correct. My wheelbase has been checked 2 previous times in the past couple of years and was correct. Was extremely shocked and disappointed today as nothing has changed on the car since. 1/2 inch short wheelbase was the disqualification.

Sorry to hear that you were stripped of your class win and tossed for that type of infraction. You have one of the nicest and most well prepared gen one Camaros running today. Its odd to tear down after the first round but NHRA has the option to check or tear down at any time during the event and if they find something they dont like then you get your ticket punched for an early ride home. All you can do is fix the issue and come back stronger next time.

[Jeff Stout]

All this is due to poor scheduling of event. It takes time to do our type of racing. When they schedule you to get in and be gone with you by Friday that becomes a problem.