Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

CMcAllister · 08-24-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I've been reading this thread and wondered why no one mentioned detonation as being a possible issue.

It can show up in rod bearings....

Usually the shells just fall out....and might have some odd looking wear marks....

If the problem didn't exist, and now it does, something happened. I've seen upper bearing shells beat up to the point they just fall out of the rod.

Fly poop on spark plugs? Fuel change? Verify timing and TDC marks? Try another known good timing light?

Just reaching here.

Billy Nees · 08-24-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CMcAllister

Fly poop on spark plugs? Fuel change? Verify timing and TDC marks? Try another known good timing light?

Just reaching here.

or cam change too!

Larry Hill · 08-24-2021, 12:32 PM

First noticed it when we started getting close to the 590 hp number. Damper is on TDC, fuel seems to make no difference c11, c12, c10, renegade 116. cam changed made no difference.

Rich Biebel · 08-24-2021, 02:00 PM

If the engine is apart and obviously it is....

Look at the ring lands and the tops of the pistons for any oddball signs that usually indicate detonation. Pecker tracks on pistons, or on the sides of the pistons above the rings. Ring lands beat up....

If all is clean then you can rule it out....

It's not likely but I thought I'd throw it out there.

Frank Castros · 08-24-2021, 02:08 PM

Just thinking out of the box, how old is the Harmonic Balancer?

Larry Hill · 08-24-2021, 08:05 PM

At least 6 to 8 years old. Last time it was down I had crank checked for balance it was ok

dragracerray · 08-25-2021, 08:38 AM

What brand of balancer are you using?

08-24-2021, 12:32 PM	#3
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,641 Likes: 1,940 Liked 10,714 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore First noticed it when we started getting close to the 590 hp number. Damper is on TDC, fuel seems to make no difference c11, c12, c10, renegade 116. cam changed made no difference. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

08-24-2021, 02:00 PM	#4
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore If the engine is apart and obviously it is.... Look at the ring lands and the tops of the pistons for any oddball signs that usually indicate detonation. Pecker tracks on pistons, or on the sides of the pistons above the rings. Ring lands beat up.... If all is clean then you can rule it out.... It's not likely but I thought I'd throw it out there. __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

08-24-2021, 02:08 PM	#5
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,975 Likes: 2,598 Liked 2,727 Times in 961 Posts	Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore Just thinking out of the box, how old is the Harmonic Balancer?

08-24-2021, 08:05 PM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,641 Likes: 1,940 Liked 10,714 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore At least 6 to 8 years old. Last time it was down I had crank checked for balance it was ok __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

08-25-2021, 08:38 AM	#7
dragracerray Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Webster, New York Posts: 221 Likes: 478 Liked 209 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore What brand of balancer are you using? __________________ Ray Bassett I/SA 1687, SS/DA 1687 "SuperPro is both", unknown