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Old 08-22-2021, 08:16 AM   #1
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

Bearing type/part number and rod type and application?
General answer: Fit in housing bore
Pictures?
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

Manley rods, King not as bad as Clevite 77, housing bore round according to AG 300. No pictures all the evidence is gone, removed.

How is bearing crush measured and where can the specifications be found?

Oil is semi synthetic
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Old 08-22-2021, 09:32 AM   #3
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

I don't know if it's correct or not, but I use a height gauge to measure each shell and to verify that the shells are square, which I've found some that are way off. I've had rods on the small end of spec as well as the big side both do it.
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Old 08-22-2021, 11:20 AM   #4
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

using too thin of an oil ?---oil is not "thick" enough and not enough "pressure on the bearing" to keep the proper spacing between bearing and crank
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Old 08-22-2021, 12:35 PM   #5
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

How much clearance are you running and what oil weight?

Race bearings usually have additional crush built in them. Are you using a torque wrench or a bolt stretch gauge values? Make sure the main bore is round and check the size without and with the bearing installed.

This is a method used to check crush.
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

I have seen the microwelding almost 3/4 the length of the bearing, and probably 3/4 of the width on the most severe ones.
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Old 08-22-2021, 01:57 PM   #7
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

2.375 crank pin, 5W30 oil, close to .003 vertical bearing clearance, bore is round within .0002, stretch gage.

I'm not understanding how to check housing bore diameter with the bearing installed.

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The welding on my 440 stocker engine is on the piston side of the rod. If the rod parting line would be 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock with 6 o’clock on the piston side. The most of the transfer of metal is between 3:30 and 4:30 on one side and between 8:30 and 7:30 on the other side, with very little if any at the 6:00 o’clock position. Rod and piston approx 1750 grams.
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Default Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore

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2.375 crank pin, 5W30 oil, close to .003 vertical bearing clearance, bore is round within .0002, stretch gage.

I'm not understanding how to check housing bore diameter with the bearing installed.

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The bearing has a thickness specification that can help you determine the amount of crush you are getting after you torque the rod. How many use cycles do you have on the bolts and what type of bolt are you using?
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