Those TRUMP haters and Afghanistan …

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

I'm not worried about the Taliban maintaining anything. I'm saying that if our President was competent enough to have a real plan, we wouldn't have had to leave billions $ of equipment behind. You know....a few tanks here, a few helicopters there, pretty soon we are talking about a lot of resources and money to use in our next Middle East war. I agreed with getting out of Afghanistan (and Viet Nam), but it is how we got out that pizzes me off.

When was it ever the responsibility of the President to get the gear out. Example, the retreat out of the frozen Chosin in Korea. Army commanders bugged out and left all kinds of equipment behind for the Chinese, Marines re-tact marked them and drive off with it. It is the area commander responsibility to disable or destroy equipment as they depart. I always had C4, termite and MK45 shape charged to destroy or disable equipment if I needed to.

[SStockDart]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

When was it ever the responsibility of the President to get the gear out. Example, the retreat out of the frozen Chosin in Korea. Army commanders bugged out and left all kinds of equipment behind for the Chinese, Marines re-tact marked them and drive off with it. It is the area commander responsibility to disable or destroy equipment as they depart.

Anything that I think, do or say will not make any difference. It only makes me angry. Suppose returning Marines will get spit on.....called losers? Hope not. But you can't blame the President for the loss using your logic. Biden only ordered our military out.....how simple if he would have said "bring our equipment too".

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

Anything that I think, do or say will not make any difference. It only makes me angry. Suppose returning Marines will get spit on.....called losers? Hope not. But you can't blame the President for the loss using your logic. Biden only ordered our military out.....how simple if he would have said "bring our equipment too".

There were 980 US cargo planes that left out of Bagham Air Base carrying US equipment and troops. Here is a list of equipment that the Afghan Army and Air force has and it looks like a collection of old US and Soviet equipment.

Yes Gary, we can only hope the people in this country will not repeat the sins of the past in the way they treated our Vietnam Vets. I had just graduated from boot camp waiting for my flight back to Phoenix when a lady pointed a finger at me and my Buddy calling us “baby killer”, my quick response to her was, “I haven’t had the opportunity yet”.

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

There were 980 US cargo planes that left out of Bagham Air Base carrying US equipment and troops. Here is a list of equipment that the Afghan Army and Air force has and it looks like a collection of old US and Soviet equipment.

Yes Gary, we can only hope the people in this country will not repeat the sins of the past in the way they treated our Vietnam Vets. I had just graduated from boot camp waiting for my flight back to Phoenix when a lady pointed a finger at me and my Buddy calling us “baby killer”, my quick response to her was, “I haven’t had the opportunity yet”.

Should have asked her how many abortions she voted for.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

Should have asked her how many abortions she voted for.

Not going to take the bait on that one.

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Not trying to set you up,Ed! I just wanted to see a broad like that explode when her hyper emotional response to US Marines who fill their uniform proudly could effectively shut her down with those few worlds. One thing that really bothers me is that the idiots from out of the sewer that defamed and disrespected our
Veterans are still free and safe because of all of you. Thank you for your service and your continuing service to our vets today.
P.S. I finished fourth at Irwindale. The latest stats were posted earlier. I had 399 final points. Two were in at 421 points for a tie between 2 and 3, number 1 had 433. always next year.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

Not trying to set you up,Ed! I just wanted to see a broad like that explode when her hyper emotional response to US Marines who fill their uniform proudly could effectively shut her down with those few worlds. One thing that really bothers me is that the idiots from out of the sewer that defamed and disrespected our
Veterans are still free and safe because of all of you. Thank you for your service and your continuing service to our vets today.
P.S. I finished fourth at Irwindale. The latest stats were posted earlier. I had 399 final points. Two were in at 421 points for a tie between 2 and 3, number 1 had 433. always next year.

Greg, I have seen and experienced how quickly the American public turns on our service members. From the signs in Balboa Park after WW II stating “Sailors and Dogs Keep Off the Grass”, to the WWII, Korean and Vietnam War Vets that were told to “get on with your life”. The homeless Vets that are just left behind and looked down as druggies and useless human beings. These useless human beings are taking their lives on the average of 18 per day. I have been in a little bit of a funk lately, 3 of the Marines that were the last to have sacrifice their lives in Afghanistan were from right here in Riverside County. It has been in the news a lot and it just brings up memories of the loss of my two Shipmates in the fall of Saigon. I can only hope that our military will not be put back in a glass case labeled “Break only in Case of an Emergency”. I can only hope that the system can address the mental health issues and transition our Veterans back to a somewhat normal life. A nation that can spend trillions of dollars on war and have 40,000 homeless is beyond me.

P.S. Congrats on your placement, it sure took a long time to get the results and yes next year will be better. I always look forward to our conversations and friendship.

[BrayJo]

Thinking that somehow you can just drop democracy off like a UPS truck upon another country riddled in dysfunction, factions, sects, warlords and where the actual government controls a only a sliver of the country, is a mistake.


When your purpose is to track down the people who were behind 9/11, and said country offers to turn them over and you say no, that's a mistake.


When you along with the Northern Alliance beat back the Taliban, and the Taliban offers surrender of their last stronghold, and you say no, that is mistake.


When you request release captured Taliban prisoners to the tune of 5,000 of them as a negotiation tool, that is a mistake.


When you recognize insurgents and negotiate a May 1 withdrawal with them rather than the actual Afghan gov, that is a mistake.


When the Taliban leader, is one of those you have released from prison and now de facto leader of Afghanistan, that is a mistake.



Afghanistan has been a 20 year mistake regardless of president. We don't learn from history. In fact, we don't learn from the history of others because Russia spent 10 years there dealing with kind of insurgents, only to do the same thing we just did.

[MR DERBY CITY]

My guess is OBAMA is behind this , Biden is just the puppet. Can’t wait to see more TOWEL HEADS and PRAYER RUGS infiltrate the good ole USA . MY FAVORITE WITCH , OMAR ….was a flapping her gums this morning . She is ready to welcome them with open arms …

[6130]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

My guess is OBAMA is behind this , Biden is just the puppet. Can’t wait to see more TOWEL HEADS and PRAYER RUGS infiltrate the good ole USA . MY FAVORITE WITCH , OMAR ….was a flapping her gums this morning . She is ready to welcome them with open arms …

I'm not sure if Barack Hussein is the puppet master, but I am sure that Biden is the puppet...