'94-'96 GM B-body 260/299 LT1 350 sedan or wagon stocker?

[Paul Wong]

[QUOTE=6130;644873]Anybody here race one?

Are they a viable combo without having to mortgage my home?



This a rocket combination. I set out to build it multiple times and still have a ton of core parts for one. This a 1.50 under ride in the right hands. I will tell you the stock rear end will expire quickly. The combination really needs a good 12 bolt. It is not a cheap ride but has great potential to be a number one qualifier and reliable.

[6130]

KBB says they're worth about two grand, but the ones I've seen for sale all have pie in the sky asking prices four to five times that...

[6130]

Originally Posted by Paul Wong

This a rocket combination. I set out to build it multiple times and still have a ton of core parts for one. This a 1.50 under ride in the right hands. I will tell you the stock rear end will expire quickly. The combination really needs a good 12 bolt. It is not a cheap ride but has great potential to be a number one qualifier and reliable.

Thank you, Paul...

[Mark Yacavone]

Also available in the Buick Roadmaster line.The wagon is in the guide..Don't know why the sedan is not.
Cadillac Sedan DeVille... Not in the book either, but I always thought it would make a good cruiser and street bracket car.

[6130]

Yeah, I was looking at the Roadmaster Estate wagon too...

[Dan Fahey]

I belong to a large B-body club.

Own a 94 Caprice Wagon and 1995 Impala SS
Ran the Impala SS as F/PS at IHRA and Association races.
Best run was at Cecil 12.47 at 107mph at 4200 lbs.
Ran wagon when SS was down and ran 14.95 90mph

Wagon has a Boxed frame making it very strong.
Will fall in M or N/SA. Around 4300lbs in M.

Both cars use PerformaBuilt 4L60E’s.
Installed in SS 6 years ago and run about 20 meets a year.
The 8.5 inch rear is very strong. Lots of upgrades available.
Never broke a rear in the 95SS racing it for 20+ years.
Owned ‘since new.

Use a Truck case as it is stronger.
Have that one in the Wagon. installed 5 years ago.
Handles trailering the SS over the Appalachians in the heat.
Going strong..compared to the last 7 that failed built by others.

Just installed a Bullet Stocker cam moving to K/SA.
SS is Natural L. K Light and M heavy.
Decal the front grill with CAPRICE and run J/SA.

The chassis is the same as a 1964 Chevelle/GTO/GM.
Dick Miller has what you need.
The axles are slightly wider.
Use a Metco Lower Arm add an SS roll bar and Airbags

I have rebuilt every moving component in the wagon.
Been an ongoing restoration and has 270k miles and burn no oil.

Pulled the SS engine it had 205k miles on it.
Still had the factory hone marks on it.
Rebuilt as forged 383 and have not installed yet in the wagon.
Jeff Warren built the Stocker engine..

The Cylinder heads use the Vortex ports.
Joe Mondello wrote a article about it in 2011.

Prices are rising quickly as more get fixed up.
Hard to find one clean or with low miles.

Hope this helps.
D

[6130]

14.95 is WAY off the index(es).

The others are telling me to dump the 4L60E.

What do you mean by a "Truck case"? Are you talking about the differential case? I'd be running a spool.

It's been about 25 years since I was underneath one of these things- they use the same triangulated 4-link that GM used in all their other mid and full sized cars for 30 years or so, right?

I think the stock rules allow relocating one of the mounting points on those to move the instant center of the rear suspension to improve the geometry.

You use an OEM SS rear sway bar and TWO airbags? I thought I remember people only using one air bag back then. Are there better rear sway bars available so that I can get away without having to run any airbags? I can tune a sway bar like that with washers.

What about headers? I See that Hooker makes ceramic-coated headers with 1-3/4" primaries that sweep up and over, into a 3" collector.

In any case, thanks for your input.

[6130]

...and I would be interested in hearing more about your Bullet cam...

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by 6130

Dan, the sedans are J/K/L cars, and the wagons are K/L/M cars. I'm not interested in running a sedan as an SS.

14.95 is WAY off the index(es).

The others are telling me to dump the 4L60E.

What do you mean by a "Truck case"? Are you talking about the differential case? I'd be running a spool.

It's been about 25 years since I was underneath one of these things- they use the same triangulated 4-link that GM used in all their other mid and full sized cars for 30 years or so, right?

I think the stock rules allow relocating one of the mounting points on those to move the instant center of the rear suspension to improve the geometry.

You use an OEM SS rear sway bar and TWO airbags? I thought I remember people only using one air bag back then. Are there better rear sway bars available so that I can get away without having to run any airbags? I can tune a sway bar like that with washers.

What about headers? I See that Hooker makes ceramic-coated headers with 1-3/4" primaries that sweep up and over, into a 3" collector.

In any case, thanks for your input.

The Caprice Sedan can run J.
The SS can only make K.
The wagon is a natural N car..can go M.

As for my wagon. It is set up for towing the SS.
FI grins bracket raced it ina hot day and Rand 14.95 that evening.
All stock engine with 3.73 for towing.

The Tahoe and truck came with thicker 4L60E cases.
Also a 6 quart oil pan. Which I have on my SS.

Mine has a Yank 4400PT Locking converter.
Mine is still licensed and can take for a car wash.

Have a choice to Lock up or use OD without screaming the engine.
However limited to 4700rpm stall on a 10 inch converter.
8 inch can go where you want with 5% top end slip.
Just turn off the Files to prevent Lock up feature up.
Using TunerCat and ODB1 tuning.

When you go under the car to see the chassis.
It will be familiar and 96 was last use of that chassis series.
It was introduced in 1964 for the Intermediates.
Then late 70’s 90’s Impalas. Rebodied 91 to 96’s

As for airbags.
You can get away with one on the right side.
Having good luck with both and can adjust the hit.

For cams big choices. Talk to Bullet cams.
NHRA standardized on the F-Body cam specs.
Do not know why.
If we had to use the B-body cam would put us N or below.