Getting to the track

CycloneFE · 03-30-2008, 03:47 PM

I am building a 3800# car that will should fit somewhere in a stock class(D/SA) and have been thinking of the day I will need an enclosed trailer. Last week changed all that. I saw in a "trader paper" of a toter with garage. It made me think. This will be a solo effort and I will require little LQ. My car though is 19.5 feet.

Some of my concerns are:

Loading and unloading from higher height.
Shower and toilet facilities.
Creature comforts in the cab of the truck.
Generators.
Who can build such a vehicle.

What are some of you "seasoned" racers thoughts for this idea?

Dave Cook · 03-31-2008, 11:16 AM

There were some fellas from Southeastern Illinois (I think) that built a beautiful hauler on a gasoline school bus chassis, seems they have a body shop, and were running a Pro/Stock type S-10 pickup, racing at ET Raceway in Southern Indiana.

The race truck went in the rear nose up at a pretty severe angle, storage under the truck, living quarters at the front 10-12 feet....

Neat looking deal.

Chris1529 · 03-31-2008, 11:28 AM

Cyclone FE, it would appear from your icon that you already have a truck plenty capable of bringing anything you need to the race track, and I doubt a 3800# car would be too much of a problem. Getting all your DOT Trip tickets in order would require some effort though.

CycloneFE · 03-31-2008, 05:43 PM

The truck in the icon would handle the load.

It can handle 400 ton in the bed.
Weighs in at nearly 1.5 mil lbs (empty)
27 in ring gear
Rear axle is 38 feet wide
The tires are 13.5 feet hight
This one is the new version with 3800+ hp V-20 (replacing a V-24 with 3600+ hp)
Top speed is 40 MPH with a load
Redline is 2100 RPM's
Has a 2000 diesel fuel tank

1752supgas · 03-31-2008, 05:52 PM

John Armstrong , Allan Armstrong and Bruce Riley all from Nova Scocia , Canada have some of the coolest I have seen , Allan had a comp opal and used a lift gate the others are super stockers which used ramps

CycloneFE · 03-31-2008, 06:12 PM

Are there lift gates that can support as much weight as I need? 3800 seems like a lot to me. How pricey are they?

I dirt track racer I work with says a lot of dirt track racers use these and they are primarily Haulmark or Featherlites.

This is all pre-planning, because I hadn't planned on a 12 foot or larger door in my shop, but I may consider it strongly if this is a good direction to go.

CycloneFE · 03-31-2008, 09:15 PM

2000 gallons is supposed to last one shift of work and I believe that is a 10 or 12 hour day in Canada.

Don't worry about the mines cost, they are mining oil from the sand. It has been said to us that each load in the truck carries 172 barrels of oil. Eat this middle eastern oil!! Canada has more oil than they do.

Check reruns of National Geographic or Discovery for the details, on the Cat 797 or the oil or Tar sands of Alberta Canada. Great footage and information.

Philip Saran · 04-01-2008, 01:25 AM

Cyclone FE,

Any good quality electric winch mounted at floor level in a toter will pull
in or allow you to roll out your 3800# race car. It would be good if it had
a full fold down rear door (similar to car trailer), but if the cost is within
your budget then the full car hoist tailgate would be great (similar to the
units used by Top Fuel funny cars or dragsters.

I remember a stock eliminator racer who raced the old Etter/Sudley E/SA
Plymouth S/W (383 dual 4 BBR) and he hauled it in the back of a used
UHaul 24 foot box truck. The bottom edge of the rear opening was about
4 feet off the ground and he had these loooong *** aluminum ramps with
support stands at certain point under the ramps. Scared me just to watch
him unload the car. This was at the old Orange County Raceway.

03-30-2008, 03:47 PM	#1
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Getting to the track I am building a 3800# car that will should fit somewhere in a stock class(D/SA) and have been thinking of the day I will need an enclosed trailer. Last week changed all that. I saw in a "trader paper" of a toter with garage. It made me think. This will be a solo effort and I will require little LQ. My car though is 19.5 feet. Some of my concerns are: Loading and unloading from higher height. Shower and toilet facilities. Creature comforts in the cab of the truck. Generators. Who can build such a vehicle. What are some of you "seasoned" racers thoughts for this idea?

03-31-2008, 11:16 AM	#2
Dave Cook Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 28 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Getting to the track There were some fellas from Southeastern Illinois (I think) that built a beautiful hauler on a gasoline school bus chassis, seems they have a body shop, and were running a Pro/Stock type S-10 pickup, racing at ET Raceway in Southern Indiana. The race truck went in the rear nose up at a pretty severe angle, storage under the truck, living quarters at the front 10-12 feet.... Neat looking deal.

03-31-2008, 11:28 AM	#3
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Getting to the track Cyclone FE, it would appear from your icon that you already have a truck plenty capable of bringing anything you need to the race track, and I doubt a 3800# car would be too much of a problem. Getting all your DOT Trip tickets in order would require some effort though. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

03-31-2008, 05:43 PM	#4
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Getting to the track The truck in the icon would handle the load. It can handle 400 ton in the bed. Weighs in at nearly 1.5 mil lbs (empty) 27 in ring gear Rear axle is 38 feet wide The tires are 13.5 feet hight This one is the new version with 3800+ hp V-20 (replacing a V-24 with 3600+ hp) Top speed is 40 MPH with a load Redline is 2100 RPM's Has a 2000 diesel fuel tank

03-31-2008, 05:52 PM	#5
1752supgas Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: nj Posts: 122 Likes: 15 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Getting to the track John Armstrong , Allan Armstrong and Bruce Riley all from Nova Scocia , Canada have some of the coolest I have seen , Allan had a comp opal and used a lift gate the others are super stockers which used ramps

03-31-2008, 06:12 PM	#6
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Getting to the track Are there lift gates that can support as much weight as I need? 3800 seems like a lot to me. How pricey are they? I dirt track racer I work with says a lot of dirt track racers use these and they are primarily Haulmark or Featherlites. This is all pre-planning, because I hadn't planned on a 12 foot or larger door in my shop, but I may consider it strongly if this is a good direction to go.

03-31-2008, 09:15 PM	#7
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Getting to the track 2000 gallons is supposed to last one shift of work and I believe that is a 10 or 12 hour day in Canada. Don't worry about the mines cost, they are mining oil from the sand. It has been said to us that each load in the truck carries 172 barrels of oil. Eat this middle eastern oil!! Canada has more oil than they do. Check reruns of National Geographic or Discovery for the details, on the Cat 797 or the oil or Tar sands of Alberta Canada. Great footage and information.

04-01-2008, 01:25 AM	#8
Philip Saran Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Parker, CO. Posts: 728 Likes: 165 Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Getting to the track Cyclone FE, Any good quality electric winch mounted at floor level in a toter will pull in or allow you to roll out your 3800# race car. It would be good if it had a full fold down rear door (similar to car trailer), but if the cost is within your budget then the full car hoist tailgate would be great (similar to the units used by Top Fuel funny cars or dragsters. I remember a stock eliminator racer who raced the old Etter/Sudley E/SA Plymouth S/W (383 dual 4 BBR) and he hauled it in the back of a used UHaul 24 foot box truck. The bottom edge of the rear opening was about 4 feet off the ground and he had these loooong *** aluminum ramps with support stands at certain point under the ramps. Scared me just to watch him unload the car. This was at the old Orange County Raceway. __________________ Phil Saran Parker, Colorado