Indy AHFS Poll

RJ Sledge · 05-08-2021, 11:38 AM

Get rid of the AHFS altogether and find another "System" with some teeth.

What about Teardowns? I don't think its in the cards of NHRA and not worth the extra money it would take to hire and train new Tech people.

If you can Legally run 1.00 under @ Indy I'm impressed, but you need to be looked at thoroughly by somebody that knows.

If you can protect your index at all the other races, why not at Indy? If you can't you need HP. Simple.

Why do some Combo's get 20-35 HP reductions?
Why do the New Combo's get such bogus ratings?

I've been on both sides of the fence and its like stealing from your competitor.
If the AHFS works leave the early Factory HP ratings alone and let the AHFS work it out, or use realistic HP ratings to begin with.

If you are going to use the AHFS, quit handicapping it? It works(?) at a snails pace and it should benefit everybody.

I agree its a good "Show" seeing people run 1.20-1.50 under and better at Indy with a 29.20BP and 2500ft DA, but it should count for the AHFS.

RJ

Glenn Briglio · 05-08-2021, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ Sledge

Get rid of the AHFS altogether and find another "System" with some teeth.

What about Teardowns? I don't think its in the cards of NHRA and not worth the extra money it would take to hire and train new Tech people.

If you can Legally run 1.00 under @ Indy I'm impressed, but you need to be looked at thoroughly by somebody that knows.

If you can protect your index at all the other races, why not at Indy? If you can't you need HP. Simple.

Why do some Combo's get 20-35 HP reductions?
Why do the New Combo's get such bogus ratings?

I've been on both sides of the fence and its like stealing from your competitor.
If the AHFS works leave the early Factory HP ratings alone and let the AHFS work it out, or use realistic HP ratings to begin with.

If you are going to use the AHFS, quit handicapping it? It works(?) at a snails pace and it should benefit everybody.

I agree its a good "Show" seeing people run 1.20-1.50 under and better at Indy with a 29.20BP and 2500ft DA, but it should count for the AHFS.

RJ

What really needs to be done is lower the indexes.How many enhancents have been allowed since the last index reduction.

Billy Nees · 05-08-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

What really needs to be done is lower the indexes.How many enhancents have been allowed since the last index reduction.

Not all "enhancements" affect different combos in the same way! Either take away all of the "enhancements" that have been handed out like candy for the last 10 years, come up with a way to make the existing AHFS actually work (compare 1/8 mile times and 1/4 mile times, correlate 1/4 et to MPH) or just come up with a new AHFS.

Rory McNeil · 05-08-2021, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Not all "enhancements" affect different combos in the same way! Either take away all of the "enhancements" that have been handed out like candy for the last 10 years, come up with a way to make the existing AHFS actually work (compare 1/8 mile times and 1/4 mile times, correlate 1/4 et to MPH) or just come up with a new AHFS.

Agreed, not every combo was "gifted" aftermarket Edelbrock aluminum heads, or aftermaket replacement carbs and intake manifolds either. And a small carbed, small cam and cylinder head combo may not benefit as much from solid lifters or stiff valve springs as much as some other combos.

Frank Castros · 05-09-2021, 09:51 AM

What good is it to have a car capable of running 1.5 under the index if you don't use it? The AHFS is flawed only because the indexes and horsepower ratings are out of wack. How cool were the early independent races that allowed you to showcase your cars? In my opinion it was awesome.
Mr. Downing, I voted because I'm a former racer who spent lots of money and time on my race cars, a long time member and if you don't like it, get a life.

Larry Hill · 05-09-2021, 10:15 AM

The best part of the Edelbrock head is 40# off the nose. That is real important when you have 300+# in the driver’s seat. The worst part is getting the runners to size, they are way to big. In no way are they a magic Bullet. With the weight off the nose the car works better.

Billy Nees · 05-09-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros

What good is it to have a car capable of running 1.5 under the index if you don't use it? The AHFS is flawed only because the indexes and horsepower ratings are out of wack.

Anyone who has a combo capable of running 1.5 under the "index" in their class doesn't have an "index" problem. It's in the wrong class and running off of the wrong "index"! They have a horsepower problem!
Is all of this WOKE crap starting to influence S/SS Racing now? Ya take advantage of all of the "candy" handed out by the Tech Dept. and work the AHFS for all of the givebacks that you're entitled to and now that your combo can go 1.5 under and hurt itself ya want to change the indexes and screw the other 50 combos in the class!

Jeff Dona SS3269 · 05-09-2021, 10:42 AM

Voting seems to be locked up I know a few that have voted this morning and it’s not showing their vote. Can you check into this Ken . Boy this sure sounds familiar 😂😂

Charley Downing · 05-09-2021, 03:45 PM

Frank Castro’s you should spend some of that time and money you claim to have and show up at the race track with the rest of us.
I find it funny all the I Used to race a long time ago guys and guys that don’t race. want to voice there options on a class they don’t Compete in.

James Perrone · 06-05-2021, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Anyone who has a combo capable of running 1.5 under the "index" in their class doesn't have an "index" problem. It's in the wrong class and running off of the wrong "index"! They have a horsepower problem!
Is all of this WOKE crap starting to influence S/SS Racing now? Ya take advantage of all of the "candy" handed out by the Tech Dept. and work the AHFS for all of the givebacks that you're entitled to and now that your combo can go 1.5 under and hurt itself ya want to change the indexes and screw the other 50 combos in the class!

Right on Billy! And Jeff
You both got it right
Protect your precious under factored combo
Or pull your pants down and. ,,,,,,Wave that swizzle stick !
Cause your a bad dude! And wanna win Indy Class
I was fortunate to win Indy Class 1 time in a fast borrowed car
That we slowed down because we couldn’t tune it for Indy like we did at Cecil the week before
And I had no business winning class 4th slowest car out of 8 car or so
But the good lord thru a light at Mr LARRY Hill - 002
He had me covered BIG but Larry said ….that’s drag racing
Nothing Is guaranteed. Congrats

View Poll Results: INDY AHFS poll
No AHFS (I have raced there in last 10 years)	118	46.46%
Yes AHFS (I have raced there in the last 10 years)	33	12.99%
No AHFS (I have NOT raced there in last 10 years)	77	30.31%
Yes AHFS (I have NOT raced there in last 10 years)	26	10.24%
Voters: 254. You may not vote on this poll

05-08-2021, 11:38 AM	#1
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 792 Likes: 507 Liked 294 Times in 93 Posts	Re: Indy AHFS Poll Get rid of the AHFS altogether and find another "System" with some teeth. What about Teardowns? I don't think its in the cards of NHRA and not worth the extra money it would take to hire and train new Tech people. If you can Legally run 1.00 under @ Indy I'm impressed, but you need to be looked at thoroughly by somebody that knows. If you can protect your index at all the other races, why not at Indy? If you can't you need HP. Simple. Why do some Combo's get 20-35 HP reductions? Why do the New Combo's get such bogus ratings? I've been on both sides of the fence and its like stealing from your competitor. If the AHFS works leave the early Factory HP ratings alone and let the AHFS work it out, or use realistic HP ratings to begin with. If you are going to use the AHFS, quit handicapping it? It works(?) at a snails pace and it should benefit everybody. I agree its a good "Show" seeing people run 1.20-1.50 under and better at Indy with a 29.20BP and 2500ft DA, but it should count for the AHFS. RJ

05-09-2021, 09:51 AM	#5
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,012 Likes: 2,711 Liked 2,768 Times in 980 Posts	Re: Indy AHFS Poll What good is it to have a car capable of running 1.5 under the index if you don't use it? The AHFS is flawed only because the indexes and horsepower ratings are out of wack. How cool were the early independent races that allowed you to showcase your cars? In my opinion it was awesome. Mr. Downing, I voted because I'm a former racer who spent lots of money and time on my race cars, a long time member and if you don't like it, get a life.

05-09-2021, 10:15 AM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,684 Likes: 1,993 Liked 11,014 Times in 2,265 Posts	Re: Indy AHFS Poll The best part of the Edelbrock head is 40# off the nose. That is real important when you have 300+# in the driver’s seat. The worst part is getting the runners to size, they are way to big. In no way are they a magic Bullet. With the weight off the nose the car works better. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

05-09-2021, 10:42 AM	#8
Jeff Dona SS3269 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 51 Likes: 14 Liked 122 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Indy AHFS Poll Voting seems to be locked up I know a few that have voted this morning and it’s not showing their vote. Can you check into this Ken . Boy this sure sounds familiar 😂😂

05-09-2021, 03:45 PM	#9
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 762 Likes: 16 Liked 653 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Indy AHFS Poll Frank Castro’s you should spend some of that time and money you claim to have and show up at the race track with the rest of us. I find it funny all the I Used to race a long time ago guys and guys that don’t race. want to voice there options on a class they don’t Compete in. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 05-09-2021 at 04:07 PM.