Over Staging

G Schenck · 02-10-2021, 08:36 PM

I thought that was always the rule.

Greg

Mike Gray · 02-10-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by G Schenck

I thought that was always the rule.

Greg

So did I. I have seen guys accidentally turn on both stage lights before their opponent stages and the starter backed them out to re-stage, but if you went in too deep and turned out the top bulb you were out.

MR DERBY CITY · 02-10-2021, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Gray

but if you went in too deep and turned out the top bulb you were out.

I saw a stocker roll thru, turned off the top bulb BUT was not Redlighted because the opposing racer only had one bulb on ..Needless to say, the offending racer backed up VERY QUICKLY .....

GTS340 · 02-10-2021, 10:59 PM

Like Gregg and Mike I thought they removed deep staging and turning on both light then backing out. I think it use to mess up the staging timer. Every time I see it now I question why the same folks do it on a normal routine and are allowed. Usually I have to wait to make sure my dial is correct before I pre-stage as the pair in front are still running their race. I try not have a senior moment by mistake. Many years ago we did a couple dry hops after the burn out.

Paul Haszlauer

SGSST109E · 02-11-2021, 05:20 AM

I was watching the feed from Orlando when a stocker went in to deep during eliminations and didn't get a red. I thought he should have gone red. Maybe people questioned why not.

Mark Yacavone · 02-11-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SGSST109E

I was watching the feed from Orlando when a stocker went in to deep during eliminations and didn't get a red. I thought he should have gone red. Maybe people questioned why not.

I didn't see that. I did see a newbie in SS, fail to courtesy stage ,and was backed up .
Joe C. , who claims to be a sportsman racer, said they were checking the dial -ins , but that didn't appear to be the case, from my vantage point.

340Cuda · 02-11-2021, 12:39 PM

Asking for myself, not a friend...

My question would be if I accidentally deep stage can I backup and light the pre-stage again? What if I back all the way out and come back in?

Bill

novassdude · 02-11-2021, 12:50 PM

The way I read it. It says the stage light so you would need to go all the way thru Pre-stage and Stage to get disqualified and not allowed to back up and restage.
As far as if you accidently went deep in a class where it is not allowed but did not go thru the stage light. Can you back up I think that needs to be clarified by the powers that be. I would think as long as you get backed up before your competitor gets staged you may be ok. But that is just an opinion.
It also says when in the stage process so I would think if you crossed in the process of doing the burn out that would not effect this rule. It may get you tossed if your class does not allow burning out across the starting line. But this rule shouldn't effect that.

Mark Yacavone · 02-11-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda

Asking for myself, not a friend...

My question would be if I accidentally deep stage can I backup and light the pre-stage again? What if I back all the way out and come back in?

Bill

Tried to post this last night. If the blue lights are on , and the tree starts, either side , the deep or too shallow car goes red. You technically have a split second to re-stage.
At least that's how it used to be. Now? Have to call my lawyer for an interpretation.

ken robinson · 02-14-2021, 01:36 PM

Just so we are on the same page , over staging = you deep staged by mistake for any reason you are out . And not just a double bulb mistake and you must back out and re-stage . I can't recall the last time I saw it happen but it makes you think twice on taking an extra bump or 2 if you've been alittle on the late side of the tree or a hot greasy track .

02-10-2021, 08:36 PM	#1
G Schenck Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Harahan, La. Posts: 521 Likes: 41 Liked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Over Staging I thought that was always the rule. Greg

02-10-2021, 10:59 PM	#4
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 866 Likes: 268 Liked 1,340 Times in 407 Posts	Re: Over Staging Like Gregg and Mike I thought they removed deep staging and turning on both light then backing out. I think it use to mess up the staging timer. Every time I see it now I question why the same folks do it on a normal routine and are allowed. Usually I have to wait to make sure my dial is correct before I pre-stage as the pair in front are still running their race. I try not have a senior moment by mistake. Many years ago we did a couple dry hops after the burn out. Paul Haszlauer

02-11-2021, 05:20 AM	#5
SGSST109E Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 351 Likes: 62 Liked 126 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Over Staging I was watching the feed from Orlando when a stocker went in to deep during eliminations and didn't get a red. I thought he should have gone red. Maybe people questioned why not.

02-11-2021, 12:39 PM	#7
340Cuda VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,669 Likes: 3,849 Liked 800 Times in 337 Posts	Re: Over Staging Asking for myself, not a friend... My question would be if I accidentally deep stage can I backup and light the pre-stage again? What if I back all the way out and come back in? Bill

02-11-2021, 12:50 PM	#8
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Over Staging The way I read it. It says the stage light so you would need to go all the way thru Pre-stage and Stage to get disqualified and not allowed to back up and restage. As far as if you accidently went deep in a class where it is not allowed but did not go thru the stage light. Can you back up I think that needs to be clarified by the powers that be. I would think as long as you get backed up before your competitor gets staged you may be ok. But that is just an opinion. It also says when in the stage process so I would think if you crossed in the process of doing the burn out that would not effect this rule. It may get you tossed if your class does not allow burning out across the starting line. But this rule shouldn't effect that.

02-14-2021, 01:36 PM	#10
ken robinson Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: tomsriver nj Posts: 477 Likes: 74 Liked 213 Times in 85 Posts	Re: Over Staging Just so we are on the same page , over staging = you deep staged by mistake for any reason you are out . And not just a double bulb mistake and you must back out and re-stage . I can't recall the last time I saw it happen but it makes you think twice on taking an extra bump or 2 if you've been alittle on the late side of the tree or a hot greasy track .