First three pair - Page 4

Larry Hill · 02-03-2021, 04:08 PM

Maybe you can help me Ron with some quote I remember hearing years ago; "A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and........." Man I hate getting old.

Billy Nees · 02-03-2021, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Maybe you can help me Ron with some quote I remember hearing years ago; "A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and........." Man I hate getting old.

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wagonboy · 02-04-2021, 06:25 PM

One way someone could try and solve the issue on waiting for the "late" people is this. We are all laddered. You know who you are racing before the call is made to the lanes. If racing a "late" person bothers you, try this.

Sometime before the round, make your way to the pit spot of your competitor. Have a nice shiny quarter ready and ask if they would like to flip a coin. However, ask them if they would be willing to flip for time, instead of lane. Or maybe even both.

Say " lets flip for when we go up, I win the coin toss, we go when I am ready- I loose the toss, we go up when you are ready".

Its fair, and it does not have to have Big Brother change the rules for everyone.
I would be interested in knowing who would say no to this type of coin flip. Are they a true sportsman or just have to have their way no matter what.

Another idea would be to have the last 5 winners of the round be in the first 5 pair the following round.

GTX JOHN · 02-04-2021, 07:11 PM

They will still go up Late!!!

Frank Castros · 02-04-2021, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

They will still go up Late!!!

For God's sake stop this bull****, establish a protocol and enforce it. End of story.

Rory McNeil · 02-04-2021, 10:24 PM

Is there a reason that NHRA couldn`t assign ALL the laddered pairs to a run order? Once the first pair pulls out of the staging lanes, the sequence keeps moving, and if you are not beside your opponent when it`s time to go, you forfeit. Why should the chronic latecomers be allowed to dictate the pace and running of eliminations?

rboyle · 02-05-2021, 03:36 AM

Pretty sure there is no written rule on this. But there are reasons for it as well. Some run multiple cars or crew for others as well. There is less halp available today than years ago so racers pull double duty. There is also strategy to this during Qualifying or dependent on which round, shade, sun, weather changes etc. or as rounds get later and fewer cars there is less time to cool down and refuel and recheck things. I doubt it's ahead games thing for the most part. If you get rattled that easily you should reevaluate some of your own racing program. Heads up runs can have you making a lot of last minute thrashing too. There are usually reasons for that delay though.

Larry Hill · 02-05-2021, 09:04 AM

Most likely reason for the delay “I race when I’m ready and I don’t care what side of the ladder I’m on or when I’m called to the lanes”

Rory McNeil · 02-05-2021, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rboyle

Pretty sure there is no written rule on this. But there are reasons for it as well. Some run multiple cars or crew for others as well. There is less halp available today than years ago so racers pull double duty. There is also strategy to this during Qualifying or dependent on which round, shade, sun, weather changes etc. or as rounds get later and fewer cars there is less time to cool down and refuel and recheck things. I doubt it's ahead games thing for the most part. If you get rattled that easily you should reevaluate some of your own racing program. Heads up runs can have you making a lot of last minute thrashing too. There are usually reasons for that delay though.

Don`t you find it somewhat odd that is is typically the same small group of racers that tend to be the last ones to the staging lanes? Also if I was running multiple classes, I would certainly try to be one of the first to the lanes in the first category I was competing in. But, I have seen a couple of guys running classes slated to run back to back, still show up near the end of the first class.

GTX JOHN · 02-05-2021, 11:20 PM

My boy and I both run Stock and Superstock at most races.

We try to be in the first few out in first class if they are back to back.

If we are fortunate enough to go some rounds = We let the lane guys
and our competitors know we are running both classes. Then we go
like H*ll to get back ASAP!

We see it as a privilege to be allowed to run both classes and we
are grateful for it and do not take it for granted.

02-03-2021, 04:08 PM	#31
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,651 Likes: 1,945 Liked 10,779 Times in 2,240 Posts	Re: First three pair Maybe you can help me Ron with some quote I remember hearing years ago; "A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and........." Man I hate getting old. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

02-04-2021, 06:25 PM	#33
wagonboy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 54 Likes: 7 Liked 26 Times in 5 Posts	Re: First three pair One way someone could try and solve the issue on waiting for the "late" people is this. We are all laddered. You know who you are racing before the call is made to the lanes. If racing a "late" person bothers you, try this. Sometime before the round, make your way to the pit spot of your competitor. Have a nice shiny quarter ready and ask if they would like to flip a coin. However, ask them if they would be willing to flip for time, instead of lane. Or maybe even both. Say " lets flip for when we go up, I win the coin toss, we go when I am ready- I loose the toss, we go up when you are ready". Its fair, and it does not have to have Big Brother change the rules for everyone. I would be interested in knowing who would say no to this type of coin flip. Are they a true sportsman or just have to have their way no matter what. Another idea would be to have the last 5 winners of the round be in the first 5 pair the following round. Last edited by wagonboy; 02-04-2021 at 06:28 PM. Reason: add to post

02-04-2021, 07:11 PM	#34
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,736 Likes: 2,808 Liked 2,488 Times in 698 Posts	Re: First three pair They will still go up Late!!! __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock

02-04-2021, 10:24 PM	#36
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,105 Times in 303 Posts	Re: First three pair Is there a reason that NHRA couldn`t assign ALL the laddered pairs to a run order? Once the first pair pulls out of the staging lanes, the sequence keeps moving, and if you are not beside your opponent when it`s time to go, you forfeit. Why should the chronic latecomers be allowed to dictate the pace and running of eliminations? __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

02-05-2021, 03:36 AM	#37
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 604 Likes: 1,454 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: First three pair Pretty sure there is no written rule on this. But there are reasons for it as well. Some run multiple cars or crew for others as well. There is less halp available today than years ago so racers pull double duty. There is also strategy to this during Qualifying or dependent on which round, shade, sun, weather changes etc. or as rounds get later and fewer cars there is less time to cool down and refuel and recheck things. I doubt it's ahead games thing for the most part. If you get rattled that easily you should reevaluate some of your own racing program. Heads up runs can have you making a lot of last minute thrashing too. There are usually reasons for that delay though.

02-05-2021, 09:04 AM	#38
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,651 Likes: 1,945 Liked 10,779 Times in 2,240 Posts	Re: First three pair Most likely reason for the delay “I race when I’m ready and I don’t care what side of the ladder I’m on or when I’m called to the lanes” __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 02-06-2021 at 07:50 AM.

02-05-2021, 11:20 PM	#40
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,736 Likes: 2,808 Liked 2,488 Times in 698 Posts	Re: First three pair My boy and I both run Stock and Superstock at most races. We try to be in the first few out in first class if they are back to back. If we are fortunate enough to go some rounds = We let the lane guys and our competitors know we are running both classes. Then we go like Hll to get back ASAP! We see it as a privilege to be allowed to run both classes and we are grateful for it and do not take it for granted. __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock Last edited by GTX JOHN; 02-08-2021 at 02:07 AM.*