Can NHRA survive without John Force ? - Page 3

farmco r/sa · 07-05-2020, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick

None of the Force cars show they are entered for the next two pro races at Indy, as well as Steve Torrence cars, and Salinas entries. I think NHRA will survive, I don't know if Force will, a lot of overhead cost

I see Force cars entered for Denver. Of course doesn't mean they neccesarily will be there.

Ron Ortiz · 07-05-2020, 11:29 AM

And as a side note concerning the future, over the holiday week there were a couple of big dollar bracket races going on. California Bash and SFG 1.1 Million in Martin Michigan. Think there was 630 entries for SFG.
Was there a mention of lowering Stock entries allowed at a National event?
Can NHRA survive without JFR or DSR..

Ron Ortiz
U/SA I are good at counting.

340Cuda · 07-05-2020, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by farmco r/sa

I see Force cars entered for Denver. Of course doesn't mean they neccesarily will be there.

The Force cars are entered in lots of races, just not the two Indy races.

Marc White · 07-05-2020, 01:01 PM

They were entered in all races pre Covid-19. Everything’s changed now

mnmaxwedge · 07-05-2020, 08:40 PM

How can they run the Denver nat event and the 2nd Indy race on the same weekend? I see that Antron Brown is entered in both races. That's going to be quite an accomplishment.
I thought that they cancelled the Denver race. I've heard that they won't have the Brainerd race unless they can open up the campground and the zoo. Without that I don't think they can't break even on the race. Doesn't look too good.

Bill Grubbs · 07-05-2020, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mnmaxwedge

How can they run the Denver nat event and the 2nd Indy race on the same weekend? I see that Antron Brown is entered in both races. That's going to be quite an accomplishment.
I thought that they cancelled the Denver race. I've heard that they won't have the Brainerd race unless they can open up the campground and the zoo. Without that I don't think they can't break even on the race. Doesn't look too good.

Denver is scheduled for 7-9 August. Well...at least the NHRA schedule has it then...I do see where the event registration website has it in July.

SSGT Mustang · 07-05-2020, 10:15 PM

Top fuel will survive just fine without Force and Schumacher. If alcohol guys and small fuel teams felt they had a chance to win they'd show up to race.

Now NHRA is a different story. All those executives with big salaries would have to take a pay cut to make it work and reduce their bloated bureaucracy. That's probably not going to happen.

Wouldn't it be great if NHRA moved out of California and landed in Indy and cut loose all of those "big shots" and marketing people who are worthless? Maybe then they'd have some money and a vision to keep them from continuing to circle the drain.

doglover44 · 07-05-2020, 10:19 PM

I feel after this Covid is over NHRA will change things up next year

tpoh815 · 07-06-2020, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

We had a discussion a year and a half or so ago, among just us racers that have done this awhile. Why not have 140 car fields, knock off all the grade points, at $330 a car, that's a bunch of cash flow, for all Sportsman categories. We could get there at the track on Monday, get pitted and entered, then get two or three time only's on Wednesday. Rounds one and two could go down on Thursday, three, and four on Friday AM leaving the afternoon for the Pro qualifying, then round 5 on Saturday, the Pros finish qualifying on Saturday with minimal sharing of the track time for the Sportsman, then the semis and the final round on Sundays in between the last few rounds of the Pros. Seems that that would bring in another almost $200,000 in entry fees total, and would only result in another day's work.It also wouldn't compromise the time requirements for the live TV viewers on Sunday.

How would this be feasible for the "working man"? Every event for a racer would mean taking vacation time. Unless all "sportsman" own their own business or are retired you will lose racers here too.

jmcarter · 07-06-2020, 07:56 AM

Guess we’ll find out soon enough with the limited PRO show this coming weekend. DSR will be out there with 4 entries just in TF so there probably will be close to full fields JFR or not. But NHRA can’t make a go without a big gate. Saw the Denver track got sideways with the health department this weekend so the prospects for a big fan event in a month from now looks unlikely. My normally glass half full has been turned upside down I’m afraid.

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07-05-2020, 11:29 AM	#22
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 316 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ? And as a side note concerning the future, over the holiday week there were a couple of big dollar bracket races going on. California Bash and SFG 1.1 Million in Martin Michigan. Think there was 630 entries for SFG. Was there a mention of lowering Stock entries allowed at a National event? Can NHRA survive without JFR or DSR.. Ron Ortiz U/SA I are good at counting. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

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Marc White Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 33 Likes: 8 Liked 29 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ? They were entered in all races pre Covid-19. Everything’s changed now

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mnmaxwedge Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 97 Likes: 56 Liked 172 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ? How can they run the Denver nat event and the 2nd Indy race on the same weekend? I see that Antron Brown is entered in both races. That's going to be quite an accomplishment. I thought that they cancelled the Denver race. I've heard that they won't have the Brainerd race unless they can open up the campground and the zoo. Without that I don't think they can't break even on the race. Doesn't look too good. Last edited by mnmaxwedge; 07-05-2020 at 08:45 PM.

07-05-2020, 10:15 PM	#27
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ? Top fuel will survive just fine without Force and Schumacher. If alcohol guys and small fuel teams felt they had a chance to win they'd show up to race. Now NHRA is a different story. All those executives with big salaries would have to take a pay cut to make it work and reduce their bloated bureaucracy. That's probably not going to happen. Wouldn't it be great if NHRA moved out of California and landed in Indy and cut loose all of those "big shots" and marketing people who are worthless? Maybe then they'd have some money and a vision to keep them from continuing to circle the drain.

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doglover44 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Carlisle OH Posts: 1,386 Likes: 4 Liked 489 Times in 227 Posts	Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ? I feel after this Covid is over NHRA will change things up next year __________________ Jake Biermann

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jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,293 Likes: 2,367 Liked 3,165 Times in 969 Posts	Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ? Guess we’ll find out soon enough with the limited PRO show this coming weekend. DSR will be out there with 4 entries just in TF so there probably will be close to full fields JFR or not. But NHRA can’t make a go without a big gate. Saw the Denver track got sideways with the health department this weekend so the prospects for a big fan event in a month from now looks unlikely. My normally glass half full has been turned upside down I’m afraid. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...h-of-july-race __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table