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Old 04-17-2020, 12:21 PM   #1
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On this day last month we had lost 100 Americans to Covid 19, today we have lost more than 34,000... think real hard about that the next time some fool tries to convince you the danger has passed... Protect one another. All life is precious!
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:36 PM   #2
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On this day last month we had lost 100 Americans to Covid 19, today we have lost more than 34,000... think real hard about that the next time some fool tries to convince you the danger has passed... Protect one another. All life is precious!
Try telling that to Rod Greene; he repeatedly refers to COVID-19 as a "hoax".
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This is like applying the brakes on a icy road....do it wrong, not gradually, bad things are going to happen..I'm staying home
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Old 04-17-2020, 12:25 PM   #4
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I understand Bill’s frustration. It has to be a terrible feeling knowing that you could lose your business, one that you’ve put your heart and soul into for many years. Watching that video you can see the Anguish in his face and voice. All that being said, how do you open without a sanctioning body? How do you open without insurance? Who’s going to write the insurance policy in this day and time? What ambulance service is going against state regulations? I’m not saying it can’t happen but there are a lot of things to deal with.

There are thousands of small businesses in the country that won’t make it through this covid 19 crisis. My favorite neighborhood bar, that’s been in business for more than 40 years may not reopen. It’s heartbreaking. On the other hand, who’s going to sit in a crowded grand stand to watch racing or anything else. Who’s going to stand in a crowded bar on Friday night to get a drink? Until we have both a vaccine and good treatment options we are not going back to any kind of normal. I could see some businesses opening back up in limited ways by June, but my feeling is that we are going to be without spectator sports, other than on tv, for the rest of this year.
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:10 PM   #5
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You guys up north might not be exposed to this, yet, because of the weather. But most every Golf Course, including County owned, are open in Florida. Social distancing is not a problem when playing golf with me …. But, if you can social distance enough to play golf, my thought is with a little common sense it can be done at the drags.

The golf courses were open here on Long Island and they got so crowded that they were all shut down last week.

They even pulled the cups an inch and half out of the hole and all you had to do was hit the cup, saved everybody from reaching in the hole.
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Dam dirty Chinese .
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So Jim who is being stupid? The man trying to protect the people of his state or a greedy track owner?
Of course, I think of the Conkey family..all the time.
The man says he put his profits back into the business, rather than a vault somewhere. He doesn't have cash on hand to survive ,without re-opening soon . He employs hundred of locals..Now down to three. He doesn't take a salary.
Perhaps you ought to define "greed" for us.
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Perhaps you ought to define "greed" for us.
So what happens if he reopens and three weeks later, a number of people who went to his track test positive for COVID-19? What will happen if any of them die?

In addition to the PR hit that he and the track will take, there could also be lawsuits. It won't just be him ... it will be every other business and organization that their name on the track.

Do you think his insurance company told him it is OK with his plan to reopen?

In a case like this, I would define greed as when money overrides good judgement and common sense.
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So what happens if he reopens and three weeks later, a number of people who went to his track test positive for COVID-19? What will happen if any of them die?

In addition to the PR hit that he and the track will take, there could also be lawsuits. It won't just be him ... it will be every other business and organization that their name on the track.

Do you think his insurance company told him it is OK with his plan to reopen?

In a case like this, I would define greed as when money overrides good judgement and common sense.
First, I haven't heard one story how anyone, famous or otherwise, specifically contracted the disease.
Sure, someone, let's say from Cleveland, might attend an event at Norwalk, and then test positive, of course, not knowing if they got it at the track. That person might then hire a lawyer and try to pin it on Mr. Bader and co. He would have to deal with that aspect. I'm sure he thought this all through.

Another option would be to keep the track closed and then lose his livelihood and that of others involved.

Perhaps you ought to define "good judgement and common sense" .
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First, I haven't heard one story how anyone, famous or otherwise, specifically contracted the disease.
Google "Biogen Boston" and look in the news section for stories about how a single conference helped spread COVID-19 into Massachusetts and beyond. Hint: In early to mid-March, 92 people in Massachusetts had COVID-19. 70 of them were either Biogen employees or related to them.

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Sure, someone, let's say from Cleveland, might attend an event at Norwalk, and then test positive, of course, not knowing if they got it at the track. That person might then hire a lawyer and try to pin it on Mr. Bader and co. He would have to deal with that aspect. I'm sure he thought this all through.
Or, you could see a spike of cases in the Cleveland area, with the common demoninator being that people developing the new cases all went to the track seven to 21 days before.

As for being thought through, do you really think an insurance company would say "Good plan. Go for it?"


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Perhaps you ought to define "good judgment and common sense" .
OK ... It is balancing possible short-term gain against possible long-term losses.
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