How about severely limiting "Super" class entries? - Page 6

Ed Wright · 01-16-2020, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros

C/SM in the seventies blew my mind. So many great race cars, albeit few Mopars. Billy Casey's "Super Pumpkin" being my favorite. R.I.P.

We did have big C/SM car counts in the late ‘70s. Biggest class at Indy & Pomona. No big car counts in A/SM or B/SM. Small blocks Chevy could not run with the Ford Cleveland. Those Fords could not run C/SM. Had to be a wedge.

Fireofficer5 · 01-17-2020, 10:55 AM

Comp and Modified used to be a pipeline for used cars, parts and technology from Pro Stock.

It was some what a breeding ground for new players in Pro Stock too.

Now, ......

Mike Pearson · 01-17-2020, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

We did have big C/SM car counts in the late ‘70s. Biggest class at Indy & Pomona. No big car counts in A/SM or B/SM. Small blocks Chevy could not run with the Ford Cleveland. Those Fords could not run C/SM. Had to be a wedge.

I started out running my Camaro in C/SM back in the late 70's. I was just a teen ager out of high school. We took the car to the sportnationals in Bowling Green KY 2 different years. both years there was more than 30 C/SM cars there. I was never very fast in that class. I didn't understand what the fast guys were doing to the heads back then. Other than that I had all good stuff.

Bruce Noland · 01-17-2020, 03:45 PM

How about addressing the 800 pound gorilla in the room? Severely limiting any sportsman category does not improve the health of our sport. A reasonable entry quota for all categories is the answer - not picking on other groups of racers. What is a reasonable national event quota for all categories? 80 to 90? Its obscene for this outfit to dangle national event entries in front of the racers and then allow only the privileged few to enter. Its known as bait and switch and it is illegal. For all of you youngsters out there (65 and younger) you better get busy cuz this outfit is determined to push you out of national events while taking your membership money.

farmco r/sa · 01-18-2020, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I try not to run near the end of Super Street, otherwise on the way back to the trailer I'm having to dodge all of the spectators rushing to the stands for Stock Eliminator.

Truly Funny Tony.

Last summer I was suprised and pleased at the amount of spectators cruising the pits checking out sportsman entries.

Bobby DiDomenico · 01-18-2020, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

The place to watch .90 racing is at the finish line.

That is the best place for all the Sportsman Classes. Sadly every track has NO stands there.

Joe Martens · 01-18-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

That is the best place for all the Sportsman Classes. Sadly every track has NO stands there.

Norwalk does! Used to be called the creature bleachers!

cmracing · 01-18-2020, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

That is the best place for all the Sportsman Classes. Sadly every track has NO stands there.

E-Town did, though that doesn't matter anymore.

Greenlight · 01-18-2020, 09:32 PM

It took 8 grade points (GP) to get in Gainesville in Stock, yet Top Sportsman is not full with 3 GP at Phoenix (10 spots still open). That's certainly not fair to the NHRA Stock racer who works hard and spends lots of $$ to attend a bunch of races.

I suggest that at the next level of GP entry date (i.e. going from 6 GP to 5 GP), the NHRA looks at the "unfilled" categories and distributes "open" spots to the other "filled" classes. Then, the following year the class that didn't "fill" it's spots early, have fewer spots (quota) the next year and the class that did "fill" it's spots early get a higher quota the next year.

The process should lend itself to all classes being full with the same number of GP requirements. The total number of vehicles remains the same.

The negative of this COULD be that you only have 7 Top Sportsman cars and 4 Comp. Elim. cars. Bare minimums could be set at 16.

Brent Kopejtka · 01-18-2020, 10:22 PM

Honestly for car quotas would like to see 64 or 128 quotas, at a National Event I don’t think there should be gummies. If quotas fill comp byes would be the only ones. I don’t know the answer but I am sure most would agree the pros could have the entourage more under control. I guess that’s where the midway disappeared to.

01-17-2020, 10:55 AM	#52
Fireofficer5 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 89 Likes: 36 Liked 33 Times in 20 Posts	Re: How about severely limiting "Super" class entries? Comp and Modified used to be a pipeline for used cars, parts and technology from Pro Stock. It was some what a breeding ground for new players in Pro Stock too. Now, ......

01-17-2020, 03:45 PM	#54
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: How about severely limiting "Super" class entries? How about addressing the 800 pound gorilla in the room? Severely limiting any sportsman category does not improve the health of our sport. A reasonable entry quota for all categories is the answer - not picking on other groups of racers. What is a reasonable national event quota for all categories? 80 to 90? Its obscene for this outfit to dangle national event entries in front of the racers and then allow only the privileged few to enter. Its known as bait and switch and it is illegal. For all of you youngsters out there (65 and younger) you better get busy cuz this outfit is determined to push you out of national events while taking your membership money. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

01-18-2020, 09:32 PM	#59
Greenlight Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215 Likes: 16 Liked 79 Times in 22 Posts	Re: How about severely limiting "Super" class entries? It took 8 grade points (GP) to get in Gainesville in Stock, yet Top Sportsman is not full with 3 GP at Phoenix (10 spots still open). That's certainly not fair to the NHRA Stock racer who works hard and spends lots of $$ to attend a bunch of races. I suggest that at the next level of GP entry date (i.e. going from 6 GP to 5 GP), the NHRA looks at the "unfilled" categories and distributes "open" spots to the other "filled" classes. Then, the following year the class that didn't "fill" it's spots early, have fewer spots (quota) the next year and the class that did "fill" it's spots early get a higher quota the next year. The process should lend itself to all classes being full with the same number of GP requirements. The total number of vehicles remains the same. The negative of this COULD be that you only have 7 Top Sportsman cars and 4 Comp. Elim. cars. Bare minimums could be set at 16. Last edited by Greenlight; 01-19-2020 at 11:12 AM. Reason: Edit 7 to 8 GP for Gainesville. Thanks Larry for catching this.

01-18-2020, 10:22 PM	#60
Brent Kopejtka Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 48 Likes: 1,182 Liked 47 Times in 21 Posts	Re: How about severely limiting "Super" class entries? Honestly for car quotas would like to see 64 or 128 quotas, at a National Event I don’t think there should be gummies. If quotas fill comp byes would be the only ones. I don’t know the answer but I am sure most would agree the pros could have the entourage more under control. I guess that’s where the midway disappeared to.