Just talkin' here,

[Mike Jones]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Having PS and CM means more racers can afford to participate.
It is simple arithmetic...
D

NHRA is reducing the quota in Stock at National Events. Top Dragster, Sportsman, Factory Stock have gone up. It appears newer and faster is more appealing, at least to NHRA.
MJ

[Chipper Chapman]

Originally Posted by Mike Jones

NHRA is reducing the quota in Stock at National Events. Top Dragster, Sportsman, Factory Stock have gone up. It appears newer and faster is more appealing, at least to NHRA.
MJ

And also to the consumer they want to sell tickets to. Fast heads up is what people want to see these days, and unfortunately, that's not us.

[GTS340]

Starting to look like stock is getting old. Same old cars have been showing up for 50 years. Same paint jobs, dried up stickers and the folks that remember the "Good ole days." Drive a new Mustang, Camaro or Dodge off the show room and face it. These cars are cool too!
I'm actually trying to build a new car. Yes I'm a fish out of water and at 63 yrs old. I'm not as limber as i used to be but willing to give it 110%. I guess I like a Challenging adventure. Just my 2 cents worth.

Happy New Years to all,
Paul Haszlauer

[Tom Broome]

Originally Posted by Chipper Chapman

And also to the consumer they want to sell tickets to. Fast heads up is what people want to see these days, and unfortunately, that's not us.

I agree, that's what NHRA wants. Yet Dan wants more slow(er) cars.
NHRA is happier with less racers in classes that might require teardowns. I feel NHRA wants to adopt the Billy Meyer/IHRA model as the path to the future. They just need to be less abrupt with the changes. So, let's slowly phase the racers out of the market, and replace them with more malleable participants. NHRA doesn't want to "fire" the current racers.....they want them to leave of there own free will.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Tom Broome

I agree, that's what NHRA wants. Yet Dan wants more slow(er) cars.
NHRA is happier with less racers in classes that might require teardowns. I feel NHRA wants to adopt the Billy Meyer/IHRA model as the path to the future. They just need to be less abrupt with the changes. So, let's slowly phase the racers out of the market, and replace them with more malleable participants. NHRA doesn't want to "fire" the current racers.....they want them to leave of there own free will.

SO how fast is fast?
Something wrong with lower class cars...?
A lot of T/U/V stockers showing up...something wrong with these cars?

[Mike Jones]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

SO how fast is fast?
Something wrong with lower class cars...?
A lot of T/U/V stockers showing up...something wrong with these cars?

I don`t know Dan, it seems to be trending the other way.

[ken robinson]

Billy the last time they changed the rules it was ruff ( 3 tenths wack ) . If they took your idea it would put me I to super street running 10.90's with 9 inch tires & less mph than most . Don't give them any ideas . If they did this a 10 year old car expires in only 5 years time . Wow

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by ken robinson

If they took your idea it would put me I to super street running 10.90's with 9 inch tires & less mph than most.

Don't knock it 'til you try it! It can work pretty well.

[Dave Noll]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Something wrong with lower class cars...?
A lot of T/U/V stockers showing up...something wrong with these cars?

Nothing wrong with them. I just started an EF/S build. I ran a S/SS combo with it @ my local track, and it went .3 under. I've been trying for 5 years to with my "N" car, before this

Originally Posted by ken robinson

Billy the last time they changed the rules it was ruff ( 3 tenths whack )

I had it @ .15 over. Now it's .45 over. (I know the "N" car is an odd combo, been looking throgh the Stock Car Classification & Blueprint section) I'm not giving up on it.
But when the wallet says so , I want to take the EF/S car to some divisionals.

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

but what would Stock Eliminator be like if the NHRA decided to instate the "15 Year" rule again?

Then there would be Nothing in NHRA that I could aspire or afford to try to race except, back to brackets.

[Tom Broome]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

SO how fast is fast?
Something wrong with lower class cars...?
A lot of T/U/V stockers showing up...something wrong with these cars?

Sounds like you're assuming I have something against slow cars.....I don't. A couple of Months ago I was having a weak moment and considered a T/SA combination......briefly. I've got too many out of date race parts already

NHRA already has more Stockers than they know what to do with, there is no room for Pure Stock and Crate Motor. Not to mention the tech inspection hassles.

How fast? Late model car fast, not 60's fast. I'm not picking on 60's cars, there are plenty of REALLY fast 60's cars out there. But face it, the participant age is getting older. To survive, NHRA needs a younger crowd. It's sad to say, but most of them can't relate to the cars we grew up with. Most don't care about older cars, I see it every day. There are multi-generational family(s) out there racing. But they're the exception, not the rule. What classes do you see a younger generation attracted to?