Which Combo's are most likely to get HP added or subtracted? - Page 5

Dan Walcott · 12-22-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

3370# in B/SA that will work, until the new cars are in the other lane, and then it will be same old outcome.

Remember when the "New Cars" had a separate class designation ? Stock/SA? or Stock SAI. Then the powers to be decided that there was no reason to separate them, so the carburetor cars and the injected became the same in class. In my opinion its been a disadvantage for the carburetor cars ever sense. Fast forward to now and its quit evident that technology has advance for the injected cars, where the carburetor cars are not able to keep up to same pace.

Easy answer, separate the injected and carburetor cars.

Cost? maybe $5.00 ? for an additional letter to class designation.

Dano · 12-22-2019, 12:22 PM

Don't forget about the 800lb gorilla in the room......

12-22-2019, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dano

Don't forget about the 800lb gorilla in the room......

Lol! ^
I don’t have a problem grouping the new cars in stock, I have a problem with the factoring. It’s soft and e v e r y o n e knows it. It’s not just the EFI, their motors have triple the technology of the older cars. Head flow, intake, EFI big cfm, pistons cut for small package, electronics, chassis, etc..

Dano, we would need 800# off to run with them.

Merry Christmas All!

rboyle · 12-22-2019, 05:23 PM

The AHFS isn't perfect, and the sandbagging game can be exasperating, but overall I think things are okay. I don't begrudge anyone the performance they are capable of running. "Soft", "Oddball", "Paper tiger" whatever the moniker attached it usually is a sour grapes issue.
Race what you want. Run fast if you can or don't. The rules of the game have been written and rewritten but if you choose to play the game either accept the rules, or become the SRAP or try changing them with approval by presenting your case to the governing body.
I do this for enjoyment. If I was as frustrated about it as some guys sound then I would do something else.

Kdw1403 · 12-22-2019, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

It’s there, only one run over 1 under so no review with avg not meeting the threshold anyway.

I know Bobby Brannon ran over 1 second under more than once. He even ran 1.20 under once. I think al cords ran over 1 second under on a couple passes. I just didn’t see that combo listed in all of the classes that got and index hit or reduction or no change.

jmcarter · 12-22-2019, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdw1403

I know Bobby Brannon ran over 1 second under more than once. He even ran 1.20 under once. I think al cords ran over 1 second under on a couple passes. I just didn’t see that combo listed in all of the classes that got and index hit or reduction or no change.

Only stating what they have recorded in in the averages they released after Dallas. Brannon’s 1.20’under at Vegas was addressed with an instant hit of 13 horsepower the following week.

55 Chevy · 12-22-2019, 09:50 PM

Someone please educate me. Why can't NHRA lower the triggers .20 in Stock and Super Stock so the fast guys can run their cars further under without being hit with HP?

Race Clean · 12-23-2019, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 55 Chevy

Why can't NHRA lower the triggers .20 in Stock and Super Stock so the fast guys can run their cars further under without being hit with HP?

What would be the meaning of having a triggering system then?

Dano · 12-23-2019, 08:27 AM

Raise the index's and lower the triggers.

55 Chevy · 12-23-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Race Clean

What would be the meaning of having a triggering system then?

Trigger is still there, just .20 faster. I bet there are many many cars that wish they could go -1.20 without getting looked at.

12-22-2019, 12:22 PM	#42
Dano Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hurricane, Utah Posts: 156 Likes: 36 Liked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Which Combo's are most likely to get HP added or subtrac Don't forget about the 800lb gorilla in the room......

12-22-2019, 05:23 PM	#44
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 604 Likes: 1,454 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: Which Combo's are most likely to get HP added or subtrac The AHFS isn't perfect, and the sandbagging game can be exasperating, but overall I think things are okay. I don't begrudge anyone the performance they are capable of running. "Soft", "Oddball", "Paper tiger" whatever the moniker attached it usually is a sour grapes issue. Race what you want. Run fast if you can or don't. The rules of the game have been written and rewritten but if you choose to play the game either accept the rules, or become the SRAP or try changing them with approval by presenting your case to the governing body. I do this for enjoyment. If I was as frustrated about it as some guys sound then I would do something else.

12-22-2019, 09:50 PM	#47
55 Chevy Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary,Alberta area Posts: 227 Likes: 23 Liked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Which Combo's are most likely to get HP added or subtrac Someone please educate me. Why can't NHRA lower the triggers .20 in Stock and Super Stock so the fast guys can run their cars further under without being hit with HP?

12-23-2019, 08:27 AM	#49
Dano Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hurricane, Utah Posts: 156 Likes: 36 Liked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Which Combo's are most likely to get HP added or subtrac Raise the index's and lower the triggers.