Coyote blueprint specs changed

kdanner · 06-26-2019, 10:38 PM

So what's the dirt on whatever triggered this? Changes to the head casting numbers for 11-14 cars.

MPR · 06-27-2019, 10:03 AM

There's plenty of dirt! Keep asking, it will be interesting to see if you get any response from anyone. I think this should interest every Stock/Super Stock racer but it has quietly slipped thru the cracks.

Ralph A Powell · 06-27-2019, 11:33 AM

A superseded replacement?

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Originally Posted by MPR

There's plenty of dirt! Keep asking, it will be interesting to see if you get any response from anyone. I think this should interest every Stock/Super Stock racer but it has quietly slipped thru the cracks.

Whalen3186 · 06-27-2019, 03:38 PM

It seems like this combination has drawn some attention since it went -1.20 and got instant hp at a D1 race last month. Maybe Mr. Carson or his spokesperson, JDM, can shed some light on the topic?

Mike Fuller · 06-27-2019, 03:41 PM

It just got another 5 HP today

kdanner · 06-27-2019, 05:42 PM

I can only guess, but my best guess when I initially read this was that someone had entered as a 2014 but actually used heads with at least one of the differences in the 13 head which are:

1. CNC ports/chamber
2. Larger exhaust valve

Am I getting warm?

MPR · 06-27-2019, 05:59 PM

I can tell you you're warming up but it's much deeper than that! If NHRA racers had any idea they would all have a fit. Issues like this should never be ignored no matter what brand you race. These oversights erode the foundation class racing is built on! Keep digging and maybe someone will give you a reasonable explanation but I doubt you'll get one from the tech dept.

jamie2370 · 06-27-2019, 06:29 PM

Its called running heads that didn't come on a certain combo from the factory. Bigger valves, cnc chambers and runners, having pistons custom made to not hit the head... because it didn't come on a 5.0 coyote motor. But somehow it got approved by higher ups. Then gets the combo hit with a 1.20 under with what should be an illegal engine combo. That's all I'm gonna say about it but believe me, there is a lot more to this certain story.

kdanner · 06-27-2019, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jamie2370

Its called running heads that didn't come on a certain combo from the factory. Bigger valves, cnc chambers and runners, having pistons custom made to not hit the head... because it didn't come on a 5.0 coyote motor. But somehow it got approved by higher ups. Then gets the combo hit with a 1.20 under with what should be an illegal engine combo. That's all I'm gonna say about it but believe me, there is a lot more to this certain story.

How interesting. I don't even know who you are, but that is exactly the same story I have heard somewhere else, and it was concerning exactly the car which I suspected it was.

I didn't know any stocker was allowed carbon doors either, but evidently I was wrong...

MR DERBY CITY · 06-27-2019, 07:37 PM

Damn, sounds like someone has been poking the bear ......

06-26-2019, 10:38 PM	#1
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Coyote blueprint specs changed So what's the dirt on whatever triggered this? Changes to the head casting numbers for 11-14 cars. __________________ K Danner STK 468

06-27-2019, 10:03 AM	#2
MPR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 48 Likes: 0 Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed There's plenty of dirt! Keep asking, it will be interesting to see if you get any response from anyone. I think this should interest every Stock/Super Stock racer but it has quietly slipped thru the cracks.

06-27-2019, 03:38 PM	#4
Whalen3186 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 242 Likes: 20 Liked 109 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed It seems like this combination has drawn some attention since it went -1.20 and got instant hp at a D1 race last month. Maybe Mr. Carson or his spokesperson, JDM, can shed some light on the topic?

06-27-2019, 03:41 PM	#5
Mike Fuller Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 953 Likes: 571 Liked 203 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed It just got another 5 HP today __________________ Mike Fuller 396 STK 3961 SS

06-27-2019, 05:42 PM	#6
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed I can only guess, but my best guess when I initially read this was that someone had entered as a 2014 but actually used heads with at least one of the differences in the 13 head which are: 1. CNC ports/chamber 2. Larger exhaust valve Am I getting warm? __________________ K Danner STK 468 Last edited by kdanner; 06-27-2019 at 07:15 PM.

06-27-2019, 05:59 PM	#7
MPR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 48 Likes: 0 Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed I can tell you you're warming up but it's much deeper than that! If NHRA racers had any idea they would all have a fit. Issues like this should never be ignored no matter what brand you race. These oversights erode the foundation class racing is built on! Keep digging and maybe someone will give you a reasonable explanation but I doubt you'll get one from the tech dept.

06-27-2019, 06:29 PM	#8
jamie2370 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Perry, GA Posts: 331 Likes: 11 Liked 239 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed Its called running heads that didn't come on a certain combo from the factory. Bigger valves, cnc chambers and runners, having pistons custom made to not hit the head... because it didn't come on a 5.0 coyote motor. But somehow it got approved by higher ups. Then gets the combo hit with a 1.20 under with what should be an illegal engine combo. That's all I'm gonna say about it but believe me, there is a lot more to this certain story.

06-27-2019, 07:37 PM	#10
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,651 Likes: 1,085 Liked 8,048 Times in 1,529 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed Damn, sounds like someone has been poking the bear ......