If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

DG7050 · 02-18-2019, 01:27 PM

My half baked ideas to increase interest are:

1. Friday or Saturday night no break out racing run off the indexes for stock and super stock. Separate $100 buy in from regular Sunday eliminator, 100% payout down to semi finalist. Let the real fast guys put on a show. Give it a catchy name that the public can relate to like "Muscle Car Showdown".

2. Online betting has exponentially grown on all forms of sports including E sports. It is a significant part of street racing allure. Find a way to do online betting on drag racing with a portion of the pot going to race winners and the track/tear down tech guys. It would be fun to be able to put bets on class racing at Indy from my couch.

3. Have more double points meets with Saturday and Sunday eliminators.

GTX JOHN · 02-18-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DG7050

My half baked ideas to increase interest are:

1. Friday or Saturday night no break out racing run off the indexes for stock and super stock. Separate $100 buy in from regular Sunday eliminator, 100% payout down to semi finalist. Let the real fast guys put on a show. Give it a catchy name that the public can relate to like "Muscle Car Showdown".

2. Online betting has exponentially grown on all forms of sports including E sports. It is a significant part of street racing allure. Find a way to do online betting on drag racing with a portion of the pot going to race winners and the track/tear down tech guys. It would be fun to be able to put bets on class racing at Indy from my couch.

3. Have more double points meets with Saturday and Sunday eliminators.

I like most of your ideas.........Not very comfortable with the idea of
Paramutual betting for a multitude of reasons.

My boy drives a Turbo Mustang in "No Prep" events for the owner.
One of the cars in our shop got to the finals in "Pinks All Out" and
gets raced in No Prep events at our local track.

I would strongly suggest that you do not come up to me at the Race Track
and call me "Ghetto" to my face (You might not like what happens next even
with my deteriorating elder skills)!

1320racer · 02-18-2019, 03:30 PM

now we got one old man making internet forum threats...pathetic! I stated and standby my opinion regardless of who disagrees or whose feelings and ego are now bruised.

fastlane · 02-18-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DG7050

My half baked ideas to increase interest are:

1. Friday or Saturday night no break out racing run off the indexes for stock and super stock. Separate $100 buy in from regular Sunday eliminator, 100% payout down to semi finalist. Let the real fast guys put on a show. Give it a catchy name that the public can relate to like "Muscle Car Showdown".

2. Online betting has exponentially grown on all forms of sports including E sports. It is a significant part of street racing allure. Find a way to do online betting on drag racing with a portion of the pot going to race winners and the track/tear down tech guys. It would be fun to be able to put bets on class racing at Indy from my couch.

3. Have more double points meets with Saturday and Sunday eliminators.

The problem I see with betting is what stops me from betting on the other guy and dumping the race?

rognelson777 · 02-18-2019, 05:10 PM

My 2 cents, from someone who has followed nhra drag racing since the early seventies, was on the starting line when Jungle Jim ran summernationals, remember the days when you could sneak up to the starting line? NHRA member since 1984.

NHRA class racing completely changed the game when it put dial ins on Stock and super stockers, and even now in small part in comp with personal indexes.

They did this because participation was going down and it was done to increase participation. It did increase participation but at what cost?

What this has caused is It is more important to build a consistent car than it is to build a fast car. If you do not have to build the fastest car for it's class, what is the incentive to buy the latest and greatest part for your car. which creates, what is the reason for manufactures to post contingency?

I was to the Lights out 10 race this past weekend in georgia, 7 classes, heads up with the lowest winning purse $4,000 and top 2 classes $50,000 and $10,000 to winner in each. The stands were packed, yes, when some of the slower classes ran some fans did leave the stands. Slowest cars had to have at least a 8.50 cert and were running 125mph in 1/8 mile. Approx 200 heads up cars at race. I would say average age of participants were 35, I was there with a 40 year old who was racing in the slowest class in a 67 chevelle that can run supercomp and is supercomp legal.

Manufacturers midway had more sponsors than any national or divisional race i have been to since the NHRA national events in the 90's.

My opinion, go back to class runoffs for eliminations and then handicap off of record, with records being fastest recorded run in class, no backup needed.

Just opinion, I love to watch heads up stock / superstock class racing, when bracket part starts I tune out, or go back to pits.

I am presenting this not to bash

DG7050 · 02-18-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fastlane

The problem I see with betting is what stops me from betting on the other guy and dumping the race?

I don't know, ask the competitors in boxing, horse racing and tennis that throw matches?

02-18-2019, 01:27 PM	#1
DG7050 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 54 Likes: 62 Liked 115 Times in 31 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? My half baked ideas to increase interest are: 1. Friday or Saturday night no break out racing run off the indexes for stock and super stock. Separate $100 buy in from regular Sunday eliminator, 100% payout down to semi finalist. Let the real fast guys put on a show. Give it a catchy name that the public can relate to like "Muscle Car Showdown". 2. Online betting has exponentially grown on all forms of sports including E sports. It is a significant part of street racing allure. Find a way to do online betting on drag racing with a portion of the pot going to race winners and the track/tear down tech guys. It would be fun to be able to put bets on class racing at Indy from my couch. 3. Have more double points meets with Saturday and Sunday eliminators. Last edited by DG7050; 02-18-2019 at 01:29 PM.

02-18-2019, 03:30 PM	#3
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? now we got one old man making internet forum threats...pathetic! I stated and standby my opinion regardless of who disagrees or whose feelings and ego are now bruised. Last edited by 1320racer; 02-18-2019 at 03:33 PM.

02-18-2019, 05:10 PM	#5
rognelson777 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 376 Likes: 20 Liked 135 Times in 74 Posts	Re: If an advocate could be found - what would you say? My 2 cents, from someone who has followed nhra drag racing since the early seventies, was on the starting line when Jungle Jim ran summernationals, remember the days when you could sneak up to the starting line? NHRA member since 1984. NHRA class racing completely changed the game when it put dial ins on Stock and super stockers, and even now in small part in comp with personal indexes. They did this because participation was going down and it was done to increase participation. It did increase participation but at what cost? What this has caused is It is more important to build a consistent car than it is to build a fast car. If you do not have to build the fastest car for it's class, what is the incentive to buy the latest and greatest part for your car. which creates, what is the reason for manufactures to post contingency? I was to the Lights out 10 race this past weekend in georgia, 7 classes, heads up with the lowest winning purse $4,000 and top 2 classes $50,000 and $10,000 to winner in each. The stands were packed, yes, when some of the slower classes ran some fans did leave the stands. Slowest cars had to have at least a 8.50 cert and were running 125mph in 1/8 mile. Approx 200 heads up cars at race. I would say average age of participants were 35, I was there with a 40 year old who was racing in the slowest class in a 67 chevelle that can run supercomp and is supercomp legal. Manufacturers midway had more sponsors than any national or divisional race i have been to since the NHRA national events in the 90's. My opinion, go back to class runoffs for eliminations and then handicap off of record, with records being fastest recorded run in class, no backup needed. Just opinion, I love to watch heads up stock / superstock class racing, when bracket part starts I tune out, or go back to pits. I am presenting this not to bash Last edited by rognelson777; 02-18-2019 at 05:17 PM.