If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

[1320racer]

You just did. Why is that Billy, lets have a mature discussion supported by FACTS, not opinions, assumptions, lies and personal attacks.

BTW, I didn't see your name "Liked" here...

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=72244

Or you telling my son here

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=71987

that you are "very happy for his success in S/C and wishing him continued success"

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

You just did. Why is that Billy, lets have a mature discussion supported by FACTS, not opinions, assumptions, lies and personal attacks.

BTW, I didn't see your name "Liked" here...

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=72244

Or you telling my son here

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=71987

that you are "very happy for his success in S/C and wishing him continued success"

You're lucky someone of Billy's stature converses with you at all.
Who in the hell do you think you are, besides a bracket racer from The Patch?

Take a hike...

[1320racer]

Mark, just an FYI, I don't ever recall speaking to Billy in person, Further, I don't believe we were ever formally introduced. Lastly, I only know of Billy from about 25 years ago when I first started racing at ID.

Now who I am is an NHRA Sportsman Racer and 1/2 of the TEAM that won the 2018 NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series Super Comp Championship. Who this season with be campaigning two(2) cars in the LODRS.

I'm not leaving nor will I be silenced here by anyone other than Ken.

[GTX JOHN]

WELL HERE GOES ANOTHER THREAD......................

DOWN THE TOILET!!!!!



Is it impossible to have a CIVIL and respectful
discussion anymore on this site?

Well it is time to take my 70+ years of degenerating
skills and load up my low $$ no talent Racecars
for Phoenix and Tucson Races

[1320racer]

good luck

[wagonboy]

1320 Racer:

Your comments and OPINIONS are no longer needed here. What you have to share will in no way help this conversation. You have never raced stock or super stock, so your OPINION is not warranted for that arena.

As someone who has been around this sport my entire life, I can answer to the question that was addressed in this thread.

I truly feel that the majority of stock and super stock racers want the recognition and rule support for the performance part of the classes. It takes a lot of time and knowledge to get a car to run well. To not uphold the rules or at least check engines really can take the joy out of building a legitimate fast car. If everyone else is fast, but are cheating to do it, what does it mean anymore.

I think with class being dropped, that shows that NHRA does not want to invest in the man power to police their rules and does not really "care" about performance catagories in sportsman racing. It is a headache to them.

It takes money to make money- they are saving all they can.

As far as the super classes and T/S and T/D. They "seem" to be doing well.

Change is an inevitable. Some things may come to an end, new things come to be.

I dont know if the purse is the drive for many racers. I feel, it is about the level of competition, quality of the venue and its systems and knowing you have accomplished something next to and around some of the best in the business.

Contingencies -WIn on Sunday- buy on Monday. I dont think the manufacturers are seeing it that way any more.

Thanks,

Hope some of this helps.

Ryan

[1320racer]

Wagonboy, my opinion is no less valid than yours. The comments, alleged problems and implied health concerns in a few threads over the last couple of days was about NHRA Sportsman racing, NOT Stock/Super Stock.

Originally Posted by wagonboy

I think with class being dropped, that shows that NHRA does not want to invest in the man power to police their rules and does not really "care" about performance catagories in sportsman racing. It is a headache to them.

It takes money to make money- they are saving all they can.

of course it is and of course they don't know, one cares in the year 2019 except a few old guys still living in the 70s.

That said, like with the NHRA, you don't make the rules here either that is Ken's call and I'll continue to post my opinion here as long as he allows me to.

[BobbyH]

Originally Posted by wagonboy

1320 racer:

Your comments and opinions are no longer needed here. What you have to share will in no way help this conversation. You have never raced stock or super stock, so your opinion is not warranted for that arena.

As someone who has been around this sport my entire life, i can answer to the question that was addressed in this thread.

I truly feel that the majority of stock and super stock racers want the recognition and rule support for the performance part of the classes. It takes a lot of time and knowledge to get a car to run well. To not uphold the rules or at least check engines really can take the joy out of building a legitimate fast car. If everyone else is fast, but are cheating to do it, what does it mean anymore.

I think with class being dropped, that shows that nhra does not want to invest in the man power to police their rules and does not really "care" about performance catagories in sportsman racing. It is a headache to them.

It takes money to make money- they are saving all they can.

As far as the super classes and t/s and t/d. They "seem" to be doing well.

Change is an inevitable. Some things may come to an end, new things come to be.

I dont know if the purse is the drive for many racers. I feel, it is about the level of competition, quality of the venue and its systems and knowing you have accomplished something next to and around some of the best in the business.

Contingencies -win on sunday- buy on monday. I dont think the manufacturers are seeing it that way any more.

Thanks,

hope some of this helps.

Ryan

amen

[Mike Graham]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

.........
Well it is time to take my 70+ years of degenerating
skills and load up my low $$ no talent Racecars
for Phoenix and Tucson Races

John. With your dangerously degenerated skill set are you sure that is safe?

[vic guilmino]

lets go back to good old days
NO s/g,s/c,s/street,t/s, t/d, all have to run a class a/gas ??????
pro stock at div.
run class first then, elim. ( class winners only)
all run off national records
yet good old days