Make the Chevrolet Win

[X-TECH MAN]

Edited by X-Tech Man

[Pete Lanciers]

It's inconceivable to me that after screwing Pro Stock up beyond repair, NHRA would double down on the logic that begat that mess!

[Charlie A]

I am a 66 year old spectator but screwin’ the rules like this in racing is the same as “No Child Left Behind” in education.
In education.... some people are just smarter.
In racing ... some people are just faster.

[Billy Nees]

and not to take anything away from the Bartons and Pattersons or Kevin out there but......... after a year of "Sportsman" Racers doing their thing in FS, the whole thing has gotten polluted by the unlimited funds and influence of DSR Racing!

[JHeath]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

and not to take anything away from the Bartons and Pattersons or Kevin out there but......... after a year of "Sportsman" Racers doing their thing in FS, the whole thing has gotten polluted by the unlimited funds and influence of DSR Racing!

Billy, you are 100% correct, as always !

[Coleydog]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

and not to take anything away from the Bartons and Pattersons or Kevin out there but......... after a year of "Sportsman" Racers doing their thing in FS, the whole thing has gotten polluted by the unlimited funds and influence of DSR Racing!

Doesn't the F in FS mean factory? Don't blame Dodge if GM doesn't give support to their racers. If you don't have a pocketbook, stay away from this class.

[David Barton]

Originally Posted by Coleydog

Doesn't the F in FS mean factory? Don't blame Dodge if GM doesn't give support to their racers. If you don't have a pocketbook, stay away from this class.

Yes, the "F" does mean Factory, and that's why the Dodge's shouldn't be racing that combination. Most of you don't know that this combination didn't exist in 2015. This combination never came in a "Factory" car. What they are racing today is so far from what the factory produced, it's not even funny.

The blocks and heads are not production based parts. You can't fit them onto a normal Hemi. It is a purpose built pro stock style block and heads.

They switched to a different blower, same as the COPO, and added a spacer for a better intercooler and air flow.

They cut the rad support out of the car, which is insane, and added a huge air intake scoop. The original cars came with nothing.

They lowered the engine, moved it back, shortened the driveshaft, and made custom motor and trans mounts. Again, nothing factory about that.

They use a remote water pump, unlike the factory cars.

They changed the hood altogether and modified it.

Don't get me wrong, the folks at Dodge, SRT, and Mopar did a fabulous job making all of these upgrades. But none of it should have been accepted as a Stock Eliminator car, especially 2.5 years late.

Bottom line is that they built an Outlaw Factory Stock car and the NHRA let them slip it in 2 years late. I don't care what their documents supposedly say. These parts absolutely did NOT exist in 2015 when these cars were produced. I know for a fact because I was involved in the beginning stages. I begged to buy anything they had for 2 years and gave up. We also had the first Supercharged Drag Pak that ever made it onto a track. There was no talk of any of these parts in existence. If they existed, don't you think we would have been racing them?

Just to give you an idea on how good the block and heads are, we gained 75 horsepower when we switched from the 2010 to 2015 426 Hemi. That's 100 more horsepower than what the COPO 427 is capable of. Same cubes, same valve size, same compression, same engine builder and tuner. Imagine what it can do with a blower on it?

[Dave Crysler]

Greg, the reason I asked was your statement that the Dodge was the worst by a fair amount , I guess David's comments takes it to another level, kind of like the Harley's in pro stock bike. Thanks to David for offering that info.

[Coleydog]

sorry, double post somehow

[Brett C]

There’s no crying emojis available here Ken!!!!