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I'm not going change the combo and I still work pretty hard on it. When I was starting to qualify at the middle of the sheets, nhra took 3 tenths away and because I have an engine family related to earlier models which can run smaller lighter cranks I got hp. I have a combo that has had hp on it since Jr. Stock. You can only throw so much money at it and come to the realization that it is what it is. Casey Miles 248H stock Last edited by Casey Miles; 07-29-2018 at 01:09 PM. Reason: Qualify |
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But I'd be willing to bet that Casey's is "Stock".
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![]() Yeah, Billy, but those ain't the rules anymore. Whether any of us like it or not. How "Stock" it is doesn't matter anymore. They ain't turning back time, or rolling back the rules. It is what it is. If you want to race, and go fast, you keep up with the rules, whether you like them or not. If you choose to refuse to keep up with the rules, you pretty much can't complain if you can't be competitive.
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I wasn't questioning that. As Alan has stated, if you aren't running by the current rulebook, you are leaving performance on the table.
When I started running Stock things were much "stocker". I liked it better back then. For one, it was way cheaper! |
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I know that there are several 302 cars that fly, but there is difference of just how much money I'm willing to spend on mine. I can tell anyone that there is no lack of effort on my part working towards bettering the performance of the car. There is also the factor of trying to preserve the originality of the Z/28 as a Stocker.
It makes me wonder that all the advantages that a solid lifter engine had which got lost with the valve spring and hydraulic lifters rules. A hydraulic based engine didn't get an increase in HP and the solid lifter based engines didn't get a reduction in HP. The factory didn't make the true performance cars hydraulic lifter, they came as solid lifters with mandatory disk brakes. So as hard as I work on my combo, power is given away by NHRA to the lower powered engine families. Give them the HP they should be rated like a solid lifter engine. Casey Miles |
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Casey, Nothing personal, but you're making several choices to render yourself less than competitive, and asking everyone else to accommodate you. And you're complaining about other combinations. Time doesn't stand still for any of us, and progress doesn't stop for any of us, either. Honestly, who has been racing an original Z-28 (and the most rare of them) longer than Dave and Ben? And they're pretty competitive. A small journal crank and rods aren't worth that much in ET. Brian Rogers goes fairly quick with a 69 Z-28, and there are few people more low buck than he is. You're flat out saying "I CHOOSE not to be competitive" and then saying "I want HP added to the other guys" and finally "I want all of the class held back to let me keep up". We ALL got the enhancements, whether we wanted them or not. And I've argued against several of them. I wouldn't complain if the rules were turned back about 30 years or so, actually. I'm not even arguing for lower the indexes. With all due respect, that ain't racing. Sorry if you're "taken back", but facts are facts.
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Now about "if the rules were turned back about 30 years or so", the only rule that we need to turn back would be the valve spring rule. And we really don't need to go back to the original valve springs. I think that 160 on the seat for a conventional cam placement and 110 for an OHC would bring everything back to reality in a hurry. And I think that even the Millennial Tech guys could use a valve spring tester, quick and easy right after fuel check.
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