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Old 11-28-2017, 09:39 PM   #1
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Why was Jamie Southard's deep staging?
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:38 AM   #2
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Why was Jamie Southard's deep staging?
Because she wanted to. It allows you to stage at a much lower RPM and find that spot on the tree that suits you best.
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Michael, I watched it as well, great show. Thank You for putting these events on it takes a huge commitment to do what you do for all of us. I hope to attend some of your events in '18 (updating my car and blowing cobwebs off of it)
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Because she wanted to. It allows you to stage at a much lower RPM and find that spot on the tree that suits you best.
I know why it is done, but the title of this thread is you can't bracket race a super stocker (or Stocker). Racer's can't deep stage when class racing, so I was asking why someone would feel the need to deep stage their class car when they go to bracket race.
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I know why it is done, but the title of this thread is you can't bracket race a super stocker (or Stocker). Racer's can't deep stage when class racing, so I was asking why someone would feel the need to deep stage their class car when they go to bracket race.
My take on it...and I'm not a deep stager typically nor am I Jamie Southards so take it as simply my opinion:

When you go to one of these races, you're taking a bracket car. Period. If its your street truck...your SS/AH...your W/S Pinto Wagon the race you chose to attend that weekend is not a class race and therefore the rules of class racing don't apply. Since deep staging is allowed, and Jamie felt that was the best strategy for success for that combination on that weekend, my guess is that's why the car was deep staged.

Any time I go racing...no matter if its stock, a big money bracket race, or sportsman in my I6 F150...I try my best to know what the rules allow me to do and set up to be as competitive as possible within those rules. If that means deep staging when the rules allow (obviously not when racing stock), I'll adopt that strategy. No need to "conventional" stage at a race where the rules allow deep staging if I feel my best setup is deep "just because I'm in a class car"
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If I enter any bracket race my intent is to test / practice. I always stay true to S/SS staging rules.
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If I enter any bracket race my intent is to test / practice. I always stay true to S/SS staging rules.
And that's perfectly alright! I'm just pointing out why some people might decide to deep stage a stocker.
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I know why it is done, but the title of this thread is you can't bracket race a super stocker (or Stocker). Racer's can't deep stage when class racing, so I was asking why someone would feel the need to deep stage their class car when they go to bracket race.
For a competitive advantage. In Stock, with the Turismo, I'm not allowed to deep stage and I'm not allowed to have a stripe taker. I'm fairly competitive with it in Stock, but when I bracket race it, I deep stage and use a stripe taker because I have a much better spot on the tree, and it trips the finish line consistently, which results in being much *more* competitive.
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Hi Chris!
The reason I was deep-staging this past weekend is: with the way my car is set up I struggle to get a light shallow stage footbraking. I have a pretty loose converter in the car now, and when I'm running Super Stock I use my transbrake and have no issues. Footbraking leaving at a lower rpm makes a big difference for me and 05-06 lights aren't going to cut it at these footbrake races, these guys are tough!!! So that's why I was deep staging, just trying to be a little more competitive! Hope this clears some things up
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