.Stock and S/S Plans for 2018?

boxmotorsports · 10-18-2017, 08:12 AM

The Can Am series is based in Ontario, Canada, Last year we raced at Grandbend, StThomas, Empire in New York and Toronto Motorsports in Cayuga . We have contacted the GLSSA in Michigan about having a race at Milan which would include both series. It was also mentioned that we could also get together with the Buckeye series in Ohio and possibly have a 3 association champion . ( I think that might be news to the Ohio racers ) .
If anyone from the Ohio series could contact me , we would like to get their views on this idea. And if Mike or Charlie would contact me , we can see if this would be possible.
A bigger picture I think would work ,,, if all these smaller associations were to get together, and a larger sanctioning body picked up on this we would have a solid alternative to race with.

Doug Box

Ross Family Racing · 10-18-2017, 11:18 AM

Doug,
Charlie spoke to myself and Joe Jackson about the same sorta deal. Now more relevant than ever. Are you talking a race with all three associations (or more) racing one event at a track in between all of us? In your opinion, how would this work? A S/SS combo with a shootout of the top 8 or 10 in points in each series with a wildcard drawn of the racers from each series in attendance not in by points?

Mike Delahanty · 10-18-2017, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmotorsports

The Can Am series is based in Ontario, Canada, Last year we raced at Grandbend, StThomas, Empire in New York and Toronto Motorsports in Cayuga . We have contacted the GLSSA in Michigan about having a race at Milan which would include both series. It was also mentioned that we could also get together with the Buckeye series in Ohio and possibly have a 3 association champion . ( I think that might be news to the Ohio racers ) .
If anyone from the Ohio series could contact me , we would like to get their views on this idea. And if Mike or Charlie would contact me , we can see if this would be possible.
A bigger picture I think would work ,,, if all these smaller associations were to get together, and a larger sanctioning body picked up on this we would have a solid alternative to race with.

Doug,
Charlie spoke to myself and Joe Jackson about the same sorta deal. Now more relevant than ever. Are you talking a race with all three associations (or more) racing one event at a track in between all of us? In your opinion, how would this work? A S/SS combo with a shootout of the top 8 or 10 in points in each series with a wildcard drawn of the racers from each series in attendance not in by points?

Doug Box

Doug and Jeff - I think the time is right for our neighboring Associations to work together on some of the ideas like these. Interest level in the 3S (Stock - SS) Regional Associations has never been better. Let's talk offline on some ideas and see how we can make the schedules work together.

And if anyone has ideas, lets hear them.

I keep wondering if Michael Beard would try one more time..............

boxmotorsports · 10-18-2017, 10:33 PM

Mike or Jeff , you can contact me at Maple City Tire at 519 455 5590, I look forward to hearing from you both.

Crew Chief · 10-25-2017, 04:36 PM

While surfing through Class Racer posts I see that there is a Carolina Class Racer Association and the East Coast Stock Super Stock Association. Someone want to speak about what area these groups are in and when they run their races.

Mike Jones · 10-25-2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Crew Chief

While surfing through Class Racer posts I see that there is a Carolina Class Racer Association and the East Coast Stock Super Stock Association. Someone want to speak about what area these groups are in and when they run their races.

Both associations have forums here, on the top sheet of the site.
I believe ECSSSA runs out of Atco., w/Dave Ley

Mike A114

Mike Carr · 10-25-2017, 10:16 PM

The Tri-State S/SS Association will allow existing IHRA classes (Pure Stock, Crate Motor, Stock/GT and SS/Production cars to compete in 2018. Our races are usually in eastern OH, western PA, and Maryland. Our season finale, The Mason-Dixon S/SS Fall Classic will be in less than two weeks in Hagerstown MD on November 3-5. One race each on 11/4 and 11/5; the Sunday 11/5 race paying a guaranteed at least $2,000, or more, to win.

All information can be found here: http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=67731

Michael Beard · 10-26-2017, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Delahanty

I keep wondering if Michael Beard would try one more time..............

I appreciate the thought, but we did try a second time, and even with perfect weather, participation dropped significantly, and we lost our &$$. Another independent promoter put on two $10,000 guaranteed purse events ($100 entry, $5K/win) this year, and he lost his &$$ on both of them. This is not a viable business model.

I *am* glad to see associations start to talk to each other, finally. I was suggesting this several years ago, when there were neighboring associations who had TWO dates scheduled on top of each other. I had suggested that they take one of the dates and have both associations run at one track, and then both associations run at the other track on the other date, thereby having far more cars, and be able to pay far more, at BOTH events. No one ever did anything with it.

GTS340 · 10-26-2017, 10:22 AM

Seeing the locations mentioned show most if not all the racing is hugging the east coast. In most cases we can race year round out west but not much happens for stock and Superstock racing.

Hacksaw · 10-26-2017, 10:52 AM

As usual Beard makes valid points. Scheduling race dates to work with HRA races and most groups has always been a headache. Finally we may have some direction to appease the different associations. Conversing will be the key. On a side note: Past history has shown that Series racers for the most part prefer to stay in their backyard and not travel. I would suggest that putting a "team" of players together to make another venue will help to make every ones race turn out better.

10-18-2017, 08:12 AM	#1
boxmotorsports Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 87 Likes: 3 Liked 58 Times in 23 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? The Can Am series is based in Ontario, Canada, Last year we raced at Grandbend, StThomas, Empire in New York and Toronto Motorsports in Cayuga . We have contacted the GLSSA in Michigan about having a race at Milan which would include both series. It was also mentioned that we could also get together with the Buckeye series in Ohio and possibly have a 3 association champion . ( I think that might be news to the Ohio racers ) . If anyone from the Ohio series could contact me , we would like to get their views on this idea. And if Mike or Charlie would contact me , we can see if this would be possible. A bigger picture I think would work ,,, if all these smaller associations were to get together, and a larger sanctioning body picked up on this we would have a solid alternative to race with. Doug Box

10-18-2017, 11:18 AM	#2
Ross Family Racing Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St.Clairsville, Ohio Posts: 459 Likes: 0 Liked 51 Times in 14 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? Doug, Charlie spoke to myself and Joe Jackson about the same sorta deal. Now more relevant than ever. Are you talking a race with all three associations (or more) racing one event at a track in between all of us? In your opinion, how would this work? A S/SS combo with a shootout of the top 8 or 10 in points in each series with a wildcard drawn of the racers from each series in attendance not in by points?

10-18-2017, 10:33 PM	#4
boxmotorsports Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 87 Likes: 3 Liked 58 Times in 23 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? Mike or Jeff , you can contact me at Maple City Tire at 519 455 5590, I look forward to hearing from you both.

10-25-2017, 04:36 PM	#5
Crew Chief Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 184 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? While surfing through Class Racer posts I see that there is a Carolina Class Racer Association and the East Coast Stock Super Stock Association. Someone want to speak about what area these groups are in and when they run their races.

10-25-2017, 10:16 PM	#7
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? The Tri-State S/SS Association will allow existing IHRA classes (Pure Stock, Crate Motor, Stock/GT and SS/Production cars to compete in 2018. Our races are usually in eastern OH, western PA, and Maryland. Our season finale, The Mason-Dixon S/SS Fall Classic will be in less than two weeks in Hagerstown MD on November 3-5. One race each on 11/4 and 11/5; the Sunday 11/5 race paying a guaranteed at least $2,000, or more, to win. All information can be found here: http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=67731 __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912 Last edited by Mike Carr; 10-25-2017 at 10:23 PM.

10-26-2017, 10:22 AM	#9
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 869 Likes: 270 Liked 1,342 Times in 409 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? Seeing the locations mentioned show most if not all the racing is hugging the east coast. In most cases we can race year round out west but not much happens for stock and Superstock racing.

10-26-2017, 10:52 AM	#10
Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 882 Likes: 206 Liked 310 Times in 174 Posts	Re: .Stock and S/S Plans for 2018? As usual Beard makes valid points. Scheduling race dates to work with HRA races and most groups has always been a headache. Finally we may have some direction to appease the different associations. Conversing will be the key. On a side note: Past history has shown that Series racers for the most part prefer to stay in their backyard and not travel. I would suggest that putting a "team" of players together to make another venue will help to make every ones race turn out better.