New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S

Steve Polhill · 09-14-2017, 09:12 AM

I know this isn't going to be a popular statement with some. But Now that we are racing against 150+ MPH Copo's etc. I honestly think ALL Cars running in Stock/SS should have a min of a 6 point roll bar, and belts.

Mark Yacavone · 09-14-2017, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Polhill

I know this isn't going to be a popular statement with some. But Now that we are racing against 150+ MPH Copo's etc. I honestly think ALL Cars running in Stock/SS should have a min of a 6 point roll bar, and belts.

I think 150+ MPH Copo's etc. should be in their own eliminator, instead of changing the rules for 16 second cars.

Billy Nees · 09-14-2017, 12:34 PM

Sooooooo, I can use aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads and intake manifolds on certain Stockers. I can use a cold air hood on certain Stockers even though it didn't come with one. I can use the wrong trim parts on certain, wrong year Stockers, in the wrong class, get it hit with HP and that's all OK. I CAN'T lighten the stock seat or mix and match stock seats but I CAN put light weight aftermarket seats in any Stockers. I think I've got it now.

MR DERBY CITY · 09-14-2017, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Sooooooo, I can use aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads and intake manifolds on certain Stockers. I can use a cold air hood on certain Stockers even though it didn't come with one. I can use the wrong trim parts on certain, wrong year Stockers, in the wrong class, get it hit with HP and that's all OK. I CAN'T lighten the stock seat or mix and match stock seats but I CAN put light weight aftermarket seats in any Stockers. I think I've got it now.

Hey, you forgot that you can run a 327 intake on your 283 stocker, AND if its a Nova you can run a deep sump oil pan....LOL

Billy Nees · 09-14-2017, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Hey, you forgot that you can run a 327 intake on your 283 stocker, AND if its a Nova you can run a deep sump oil pan....LOL

Yeah, what he^^^^^^^^^^^^ said!

SSDiv6 · 09-14-2017, 01:12 PM

As I was told, the rule was implemented because the creativity of some racers using a tall bucket seat for the driver and using a short seat on the passenger side to save weight.

Coleydog · 09-14-2017, 01:16 PM

How much weight savings can you actually get by cutting off the head rest? I think lighter clothes would work just as well. I can't believe with all the other problems out there they would jump on this. Outcry from the fans must be unbearable. Is it high on the list or job justification.
Mike

Jim Caughlin · 09-14-2017, 02:01 PM

I'm thinking that cutting off the passenger headrest is more to get better rear vision than a weight factor. The interesting variation on this is you can use two low back seats and attach the headrest to the roll bar / cage, totally legal.

Jim Bailey · 09-14-2017, 06:26 PM

This stuff cracks me up! I stood on the starting line at Indy,. I observed multiple and I mean multiple, sub 10 second stockers running without the required safety equipment . No neck collars, no window nets, no gloves, open face helmets, and less than sfi/5 jackets and pants. This included factory shoot out cars,stockers,and AH Hemis. So now NHRA wants to worry about a passenger seat that nobody rides in ..... how about some competent tech persons / observers !

Mike Delahanty · 09-14-2017, 09:02 PM

At Indy I observed a class car with a 9.9something dial get stopped at the staring line during eliminations and the starter opened the door and asked where the drivers gloves were. The dial was immediately changed to 10.00 by the starter to the tower and the car allowed to run.

We are all big boys and girls. Shame on us for not complying with the rules.

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Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

This stuff cracks me up! I stood on the starting line at Indy,. I observed multiple and I mean multiple, sub 10 second stockers running without the required safety equipment . No neck collars, no window nets, no gloves, open face helmets, and less than sfi/5 jackets and pants. This included factory shoot out cars,stockers,and AH Hemis. So now NHRA wants to worry about a passenger seat that nobody rides in ..... how about some competent tech persons / observers !

09-14-2017, 09:12 AM	#1
Steve Polhill Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Ontario Posts: 515 Likes: 40 Liked 262 Times in 74 Posts	Re: New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S I know this isn't going to be a popular statement with some. But Now that we are racing against 150+ MPH Copo's etc. I honestly think ALL Cars running in Stock/SS should have a min of a 6 point roll bar, and belts. __________________ Steve Polhill 3520 STOCK, COMP

09-14-2017, 12:34 PM	#3
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S Sooooooo, I can use aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads and intake manifolds on certain Stockers. I can use a cold air hood on certain Stockers even though it didn't come with one. I can use the wrong trim parts on certain, wrong year Stockers, in the wrong class, get it hit with HP and that's all OK. I CAN'T lighten the stock seat or mix and match stock seats but I CAN put light weight aftermarket seats in any Stockers. I think I've got it now. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-14-2017, 01:12 PM	#6
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,045 Likes: 712 Liked 1,605 Times in 583 Posts	Re: New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S As I was told, the rule was implemented because the creativity of some racers using a tall bucket seat for the driver and using a short seat on the passenger side to save weight.

09-14-2017, 01:16 PM	#7
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 572 Likes: 39 Liked 53 Times in 38 Posts	Re: New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S How much weight savings can you actually get by cutting off the head rest? I think lighter clothes would work just as well. I can't believe with all the other problems out there they would jump on this. Outcry from the fans must be unbearable. Is it high on the list or job justification. Mike

09-14-2017, 02:01 PM	#8
Jim Caughlin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Woodburn, Or Posts: 685 Likes: 83 Liked 805 Times in 245 Posts	Re: New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S I'm thinking that cutting off the passenger headrest is more to get better rear vision than a weight factor. The interesting variation on this is you can use two low back seats and attach the headrest to the roll bar / cage, totally legal.

09-14-2017, 06:26 PM	#9
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: New Rule Revision For Stock and S/S This stuff cracks me up! I stood on the starting line at Indy,. I observed multiple and I mean multiple, sub 10 second stockers running without the required safety equipment . No neck collars, no window nets, no gloves, open face helmets, and less than sfi/5 jackets and pants. This included factory shoot out cars,stockers,and AH Hemis. So now NHRA wants to worry about a passenger seat that nobody rides in ..... how about some competent tech persons / observers !